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Warning[]

Please do not add nonsense to Wookieepedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the Jundland Wastes sandbox. Thank you. CC7567 ^(talk) 07:55, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Name[]

Your name is cool. Just thought you should know. :) Chack Jadson ^(Talk) 00:19, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Shadows of the Empire 1[]

• While we appreciate additions to stub articles, your summary for Shadows of the Empire 1 is one HUGE wall of text. Please break it up into manageable paragraphs. Thanks. OLIOSTER ^(talk) 08:14, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Endor[]

Thank you for your edits to the Battle of Endor page. Since I'm trying to bring it to featured status, it would be great if you could continue.--ID-21 Dolphin 18:49, September 6, 2010 (UTC)--You can't disguise yourself from me...Jedi. 18:48, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Editing articles[]

When editing and creating articles, please remember to follow all site policies. Continued failure to do so may result in a block from editing. Thank you for your cooperation. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 01:49, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

• I advise you to read up on the multiple site policies listed in your welcome message, so that you may better understand the issues here. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 02:01, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sub-Adult Group[]

Hi, I would like to point out that lack of sources in other articles isn't an excuse to do unsourced additions now, as you suggested in Sub-Adult Group. –Tm_T ^(Talk) 14:57, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Cosinga[]

It's a little from column A and a little from column B. He cared very much about power, and was furiously jealous of anyone with more of it than him. However, he was so unjustifiably arrogant that he thought he was a much bigger player in the political world than he really was. Basically, he thought he was the sh*t, an didn't need more power because he had it all already. Jayden Matthews 14:28, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Video games[]

Hello there, I see you have been making articles dedicated to video games. If it interests you, we have an entire project on the subject. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 16:44, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

First Battle of Theed[]

Hi there, good catch regarding the number of ATTs for First Battle of Theed, but could you re-add ATTs to the infobox, because they were there? And you could definitely source that to Episode I. See here for more information. Thanks! Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 18:53, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Midi-chlorians and Anakin Skywalker[]

Hey Weedle, I just finished reading Darth Plaugeis, and I noticed the edits you made on Anakin Skywalker's possible father. Where does it say that Plaugeis tried, and the midi-chlorian's refused, creating Skywalker in retaliation? I must have missed something. Can you tell me what pages to review. Thanks!!!24.90.125.6 22:41, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

I haven't actually read the book, sorry. You could try asking ZeroLead, though, as I based my edits on what he edited the Legacy section of the Darth Plagueis article. Wait, I just checked it, and I think I might have cited the wrong source, apparently it was Vader the Ultimate Guide that stated that, not the Darth Plagueis novel, sorry. Weedle McHairybug 23:12, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

• Woah,..really. So plagueis didn't and Vader the Ultimate guide did? I read that, i thought it was just a book on the merchandise and legacy darth vader left in the real world. Please tell me what pages, so I can check it out on Barnes and Nobles tommorrow.24.90.125.6 00:46, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

I haven't read that book, either, sorry. But like before, I could suggest you ask ZeroLead, as (s)he added it in and thus should know which pages to look up. Weedle McHairybug 00:52, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Inuse[]

While your edit is appreciated, the page you just edited currently has a template called {{Inuse}} at the top. This template means that someone is currently working on improving the article, and to avoid edit conflicts, no one other than the placer of the template should edit the page while the message is visible. Thank you for your cooperation. JangFett ^(Talk) 13:51, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

RE:[]

OK then. That works for me. Just be careful with adding mentions of impliactions to articles. It has to be really blatent, like that one was. NaruHina ^Talk 16:03, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Grand Plan[]

Anything you can think of to make that Legacy section better would be great.... I kind of banged out a couple paragraphs because I thought it was important, but couldn't figure out how to write it without going on at excessive length about the entire EU. Another pair of eyes helps =) – DigiFluid 01:05, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Palpatine willingness to commit suicide[]

There is no evidence given in the sources that you have cited (that I could find) to support your edit. The issue here is not about if "Palpatine clearly was goading Marek into finishing him off, with Kota telling him not to as he'll be 'back where he started'" but that you wrote how Palpatine was "more than willing to allow himself to be struck down and potentially be killed." Please refrain from trying to insert extrapolations in articles that are a result of personal opinion or private conclusion. It is indeed considered original research under the definition outlined in the Attribution—that is, inclusiveness is based on whether the material is attributable to a reliable published source, not whether it is true. TFU does not specifically state the motive for Palpatine's use of Dun Möch, nor does it state that he was willing to let himself be destroyed. The burden of evidence lies with you. What this means is that you will need to post the direct quote from the cited material that supports your statement of Palpatine's to the article talk page. Merely citing TFU as your source does not legitimize your edit. —Gethralkin^Hyperwave 02:01, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Here are the exact words when he was defeated:

Palpatine: You were always destined to destroy me. Do it! Give in to your Hatred!

Kota: He's beaten. Let it go....

Starkiller: It's a trick! He's more powerful than you know. And he deserves to

die for what he's done to me.

Kota: Maybe so. But, if you kill him now, out of hatred, then you will be right

back where you started.

There is absolutely no other way to explain it, seeing how Palpatine was trying to goad Marek into killing him. The dialogue makes it very clear that he was trying to get Marek to kill him in order to make him turn to the Dark Side, so unless you want to claim that Palpatine was trying to use reverse psychology (which, if he was, he would not have tried to kill Kota for interfering). If you wish to believe that there was some other explanation for what he was saying, fine, believe it, but the exact words make it clear that he was essentially willing to die if it meant turning someone to the Dark Side. It wouldn't be the first time he did so anyways, as Palpatine also replied to Anakin's remark about wanting to kill Palpatine upon learning that he was a Sith Lord with "I know you would. I can feel your anger... It gives you focus...! Makes you stronger...!" So the dialogue right then and there is more than enough. Weedle McHairybug 10:43, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

• Please see response on the talk page. —Gethralkin^Hyperwave 03:46, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Re:[]

Your problem seems to be with specifying a correct source for the image, which is the most important field when uploading an image. As long as you choose a reasonably relevant license tag, that can always be altered later if need be, as long as the image is properly sourced. Feel free to ask the administrator who is deleting your images what exactly you're doing wrong. They will more than likely be willing to give you a heads up as to how you can correct whatever mistake you're making. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:03, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

I'd ask the moderator if I knew who the moderator responsible is. They didn't notify me about the images deleted, and for some reason, the wikia isn't emailing me anymore of any changes on my watchlist. Weedle McHairybug 22:05, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Your deleted contributions can be found here. By clicking on the redlinks, a notice will appear showing you which administrator deleted the page or file and for what reason. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:08, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I tried clicking the redlinks, but it just takes me to the image upload area, so that's not going to be of much help. Also, the Deleted Contributions link seems to forbid me access due to my not meeting any of the criteria, such as being an admin, or being a community editor or something. Weedle McHairybug 22:11, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

If you aren't able to see that page, my mistake. I'm not always cognizant of which pages only admins can see in their entirety. At any rate, your problem appears to be that you're sourcing your images to Wikia, which isn't a viable source. You need to specify an actual Star Wars source. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:14, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, although it's going to be extra difficult trying to locate images of those areas since, at least as far as I am aware, I have absolutely no idea where they got the images from on the Netherlands Wookieepedia, AKA Yodapedia. The fact that its in the Netherlands language also doesn't help matters, either. Believe me when I say this, trying to find various images on specific buildings in Galactic Battlegrounds is a huge pain in the butt, as I checked Bing, Yahoo, Dogpile, and Picsearch and I don't come up with any dice on the searches other than those on Yodapedia. I'm not going to use Google to find any sites that have them since I'm effectively on boycott thanks to one of their subsidaries, Youtube, promoting GCB, which insults my religion. Weedle McHairybug 22:20, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

If the images are clearly screen shots from the game itself, all you need to do is use Galactic Battlegrounds itself as the source. If the images are concept artwork and are not from the game, that's a little bit more difficult. In that case, you may be out of luck unless you're able to ask someone on Yodapedia who might be able to help you there. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:24, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I attempted to do so, but it bounces me back. At least I managed to locate the deletion log, and managed to locate the admin responsible, tried to settle the misunderstanding, and also requested politely if the general source link (http://nl.starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Galactic_Battlegrounds), if those links were far too specific than what the site had in mind, was applicable, and if not, which sites I should look for to find those images. Weedle McHairybug 22:39, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure you're understanding exactly what I'm attempting to say. If these images are from the game, you don't need to post the URL of where you're taking the images from. That URL, particularly in this case, as it comes from Wikia, is not a source. Just type this, literally, in the source field, and you'll be ok: Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:44, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

I'm doing exactly what you said I should do, including listing the game title on the source instead of using the URL, but its not getting through, saying I uploaded the image before, and it got deleted. Weedle McHairybug 22:49, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that's the wiki's built-in safeguard to prevent vandals from abusing the upload function. You're not doing anything wrong, you're just hitting the filter. I believe it should give you an option at the bottom of the upload form page to ignore the warning and upload anyway. See if that helps you. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:51, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I did it. I just hope I didn't make any mistakes this time around that will result in it getting deleted again.

BTW, I might as well ask this as well: I found a site that has a ripped image of the Imperial Airbase from the game on it. I'd like to upload it so that at the very least, another variation of the Airbase can be added in for comparison, and get the Imperial Airbase article nearly finished as well, if it is all right. The site is here: http://www.ferazelhosting.net/~bryce/re.html. I also found another site that has images of most of the mechs/vehicles/vessels from the game, and was wondering if it is all right if I uploaded them. They're here, BTW: http://www.galacticbattles.com/civilizations/index.htm, each under each faction. I said most because some of the images repeat themselves. Weedle McHairybug 23:18, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with taking images from other people's websites and uploading them here on Wookieepedia, provided you source them correctly. But I would just make sure they're actual screenshots from the game. In that first link you gave me, for example, I can already see someone has photoshopped out the game background for that airbase, which I would just generally classify as "fan art," and which I would not recommend uploading for our purposes. Try to make sure everything you get is unmodified. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:05, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I guess that nixes ferazelhosting, then. I think the galactic battles site images of the vehicles and personnel were taken directly from the game, though. Only real problem might be the borders. I might remove the borders when I have time. One last thing, do you have any knowledge of sites that actually do possess in-game images focusing on various buildings? I tried searching for the Airbases (barring Naboo, as that one was already uploaded), Shipyards, and pretty much all the buildings and equipment that haven't been uploaded to the site yet, with little luck if any at all. Weedle McHairybug 01:11, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

I really know nothing about that game or anything related to it. If I really needed an image and couldn't find a website with anything satisfactory, I might consider looking at YouTube walkthrough videos of the game and taking a screen grab from that. Your other option, of course, is finding someone who has the game and get them to do the work for you. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:13, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

I ordered the manual on Amazon. Does that qualify (although I'll have to wait until my computer's back in the living room after finals and my printer's scanner is fully functional, not to mention when the guide actually arrives by mail before I get a chance to do so)? I guess I'll ask one of the frequent editors of the site regarding the images for the buildings in either case. Most likely those who actually uploaded the images in the first place. Weedle McHairybug 01:22, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

If you're asking whether the game manual qualifies as a source for uploading images, yes, it does. Anything that is officially licensed is fair game (except in very rare cases that won't affect you here). Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:25, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

We'll, actually, I was meaning more whether that qualifies as something that has images of the buildings. But yeah, I guess that works. Weedle McHairybug 01:27, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

SW:GB buildings[]

Hello there, just reminding you to watch your copy/pastes. Rebel Fortress needs a bit of work. Also, the layout guide specifies all articles need categories: for instance, [[Category:Structures]]. If you have any other questions, feel free to let me know, and happy editing! Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 00:13, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

• And feel free to remove said tags once completed. Also, for what its worth, all the images in the strat guide are in black-and-white and rather tiny. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 02:07, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
  • Okay, I probably just need to do close comparisons to deduce which ones are which. Another thing, assuming I don't go through with the strategy guide, do you know of any websites that carry images of the buildings? It's been a pain in the neck trying to find the buildings via search engines. Weedle McHairybug 02:23, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

I did upload File:3JediTemples.jpg early on, thinking that maybe I'd create a generic Jedi temple article. The problem came with what to name it. It's not the Jedi Temple, but a Jedi temple. Anyway, maybe you can use that. Enochf 02:32, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

I actually already did make use of your 3 Jedi Temples picture. I was actually wondering where you got the image, since I need to upload images onto the various building articles, namely the Shipyard (Water) article, pretty much any of the faction's versions of the buildings that neither has an article yet specifically because it doesn't have a picture nor has a picture even if it has an article. Weedle McHairybug 02:35, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Sources[]

Hey there! I noticed that you added The Phantom Menace to Gooberfish's "Sources" section. Please take a moment to note the difference between an "Appearance" and a "Source." One cannot be both. Cheers. Menkooroo 03:00, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

When I mentioned that it was a "source", I was actually referring more to Jar Jar's comment about the Opee Sea Killer being a big gooberfish, not that it appeared in the film. Though, you're right. Now that I think about it, that would have been better under "Notes and references." Weedle McHairybug 03:04, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Categorization[]

This is just a reminder to please remember to categorize your articles. Thanks. Trak Nar ^{Ramble on} 06:48, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Engine numbers[]

Unfortunately, your assumption on the canonicity of images from that site is wrong. The only canon images are the ones included in Warfare. That includes a front only shot that doesn't show the engines, and a shot that shows that the engines number at least 19 according to this edit. Any other information gleaned from that site is not official until explicitly referenced in an official release. While this may eventually come, it has not yet, so please do not assume that just because it is shown on Mr Hsiao's site that it is canon in regards to the ship designs since any future artist/author may change the details. - Cavalier One^{(Squadron channel)} 18:26, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Strategic Reserve[]

Despite it's apparent use in the Piett/Ozzel image, Mr Hsaio's image is not canon and should not be uploaded to illustrate articles in itself. It may be uploaded if it is serving a purpose to illustrate behind the scenes information, but at the moment I do not see where this would be possible. Images should not be shoehorned into the site simply because they are available. As for the Piett/Ozzel image, I am afraid I am not prepared to ruin my copy of the book just to scan the image. There are several other users on the site that are uploading such images from Warfare, so contacting them and requesting the upload would be the best course of action. - Cavalier One^{(Squadron channel)} 10:38, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

We could always try the Development section of the EGW article, since that's where that information can be found. Weedle McHairybug 10:55, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Deleting pages[]

Hi there, if you want a page to be deleted, place {{Delete|<reason>}} at the top of the page rather than blanking it. I've already tagged the Imperial Science Corps article you blanked, so just remember to use the tag in the future. Cheers, nayayen★talk 13:07, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

MS Word's grammar check[]

You can not completely rely on Word's auto check. I noted redundant use of words in the same sentence—"the background of a fleet maneuver... depicted several TIE Advanced X1s in the background."—and "artwork" should not be preceded by "an" since it is more commonly (and therefore American English standard policy of WP) used as a plural instance. Be careful to examine your grammar and if someone points something out to you, please seek out input from an authoritative source rather than relying on an automated piece of software. Thanks. —Gethralkin^Hyperwave 16:05, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

• Just wanted to reemphasize that proper English grammar is policy here on the Wookieepedia. If you are planning on making significant edits, I recommend that you run them by one of the tutors at the Online Writing Lab before posting them in an article. Otherwise, you are leaving a mess for others to clean up. —Gethralkin^Hyperwave 06:40, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
  • Dude, you are doing it again. Superfluous repetition in a run-on sentence: "although Palpatine informed him that it would have to wait, as he wanted him to conclude shipping arrangements for Black Sun to the construction site of the second Death Star at Endor, although... " Plus, the wording concerning what is being shipped is not clear enough to convey what exactly you are talking about. Therefore, I am removing them. If Black Sun itself is not being delivered to DSII (which I know is ridiculous, but someone else who doesn't know about what Black Sun is wouldn't), then what is? Supplies? Are these arrangements a one-time deal or for the duration of construction? If for the duration, then wouldn't they be called shipping "rights?" Please don't upload these things until they've been proofread by a human who has experience in proofreading. —Gethralkin^Hyperwave 13:23, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
• Good work on the last Anakin edit you did. Just a small note concerning the way dashes are inserted—"the proper way to make a dash in a sentence is to use an em dash (by typing "&mdash;") not surrounded by spaces" (italics mine). Good work finding and posting that canon WWII reference. —Gethralkin^Hyperwave 04:52, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

Warfare[]

Hey, Weedle, do you want to join WookieeProject Warfare? We'd love to have you! Just sign your name with a number sign and three tildes in the participants section. Thanks! Cade Calrayn 14:34, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Reinstating Rule of Two edit.[]

• Book of Sith, last chapter: Rule of One. His apprentices were apprentices for life—they were never meant to replace him, just run some errands for him. That's what "there is no way but my way" means, it means "I follow no rules but the rule that says that I am the boss, forever" (Rule of One). --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 13:28, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

Ansel Hsiao ship designs[]

As per Jason Fry's comment here regarding the canonicity of Ansel Hsiao's designs, please do not add information gleaned directly from Hsiao's site unless it has been referred to explicitly in an official source. To quote: Re Ansel's designs, what I included in the endnotes is the canonical stuff. Nothing else is so defined. Please do not continue to add non-official material to these articles. Thank you for your cooperation. - Cavalier One^{(Squadron channel)} 08:05, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

I can inform you that there are at least two other Hsiao artworks in the EGW that clearly show the weaponry in question for the Assertor, Bellator, and Assertor-class ships, so the ships armament at the very least is canonical. Besides, there wasn't a ban on counting via circumference. Ask Darth Culator, one of your mods, since he used the circumference method to give the amount of engines in the Assertor-class Star Dreadnought, and he also listed it as having a hyperdrive. Look at the Assertor-class's history section if you don't believe me. Plus, some of the stuff for the Vigil for its arsenal and dish, at the very least, can stay as well, since those can be seen in the Naval Station Validusia pic. Fine, remove the stuff about engines and weaponry for the Procursator and Secutor, and remove the engines portion for the Vigil, but keep those that actually appear in the pics in the EGW, since if that amount appears in the pics for the EGW, they're canonical, like you said earlier. Weedle McHairybug 13:46, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

The fact that weapons appear is not in dispute. However, no image clearly shows the ridgeline of the Assertor-class of the Bellator-class, so weapons cannot be counted there. Furthermore, nothing in canon specifically says what each weapon mount is. Nothing says that there are X weapons of this class, or Y of this. Nothing. I quote again, Re Ansel's designs, what I included in the endnotes is the canonical stuff. Nothing else is so defined. If you want to count the clearly visible weapon mounts and mention that it has a least this number of emplacements, be my guest. But the type of weapon is never specified. You are basing your entries off of Mr Hsiao's site, which is not canon I'm afraid. - Cavalier One^{(Squadron channel)} 14:14, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

RE: "Unknown"[]

I removed the statement because of this section in the MOS. <-Omicron^{(Leave a message at the BEEP!)} 15:02, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Showdown Concepts[]

Would you mind sourcing your additions to Showdown on Coruscant, please? I try to keep it as close to status as I can on my own, but I have no idea where you got your information from. NaruHina ^Talk 05:33, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for adding, either way. NaruHina ^Talk 05:39, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
  • I kinda deleted it because of the sources issue, sorry. I'd give you my sources, but given that the sources were from TVTropes (specifically, the Star Wars subfolder for the Film entry of the What Could Have Been trope), I'm not sure that counts, especially seeing how the first time I tried to use TVTropes as a source, on the Final Fantasy Wiki regarding a concept for Dissidia: Final Fantasy, they said it didn't count. Weedle McHairybug 05:42, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Categorization[]

• Please categorize any images you upload. Thanks. OLIOSTER ^(talk) 23:22, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Paintings[]

• I'll get to the other ones in due time but feel free to contribute any way you see fit. I am only one man and SWG has so many paintings (and other things) in it so I welcome any help. I'll just come along and fix any problems I see. Feel free to use any of the painting articles I've made as a template for future ones. OLIOSTER ^(talk) 22:29, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
  • Those were the only ones I saw that I had created before. Don't assume that their name on the SWGWiki is their actual canon name because, like us, they have to name it something. A good portion of paintings in the game were simply named "Painting" and I don't have a list of which ones these were. Most of the time I am working from memory of when I played the game. The site does not list every painting but it does list them by the name they had in the game (although on that site, any portion of the name in brackets is likely not part of its official and is just a way to distinguish different paintings with the same name). OLIOSTER ^(talk) 10:46, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Palpy's Sith Infiltrator[]

Was the review you read from an official Star Wars affiliate and do you have a link to it. Since no one else is going to be able to find the specific review you mean independently, that needs a reference in the article. NaruHina ^Talk 00:46, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

• Well, if IGN counts as an official Star Wars affiliate, here it is: http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/05/24/star-wars-darth-vader-and-the-ghost-prison-1-review Weedle McHairybug 01:07, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
  • They don't. The reviewer, while probably approximately correct, is inferring that and you can't source to his words in our article. NaruHina ^Talk 01:19, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

Watermarks[]

Hey Weedle. Great job on the Galactic Battleground articles. When uploading images, remember to remove the watermark and other information written around it, since that is OOU. Cheers. Stake black ^msg 00:44, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks. I had to take a lot of time trying to search for those images on the web, and let's put it this way, heavengames.com was a treasure trove of these images. I sourced them under Galactic Battlegrounds because that's where they came from. Hope that's all right. BTW, I took two computer science courses in College and passed with a C average. However, I haven't been able to find my textbook/lab CD in my house, so I might have to ask, as I usually need to consult my textbooks to figure things out: How do I try to remove watermarks and other information? Weedle McHairybug (talk) 00:52, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
  • Sorry for the late response. Well, in this case, you just crop out of the image the logos, which can be done in Paint. Cheers. Stake black ^msg 12:18, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Galactic Battlegrounds source lists[]

Hey there, when you're adding source lists to Galactic Battlegrounds, remember that the strategy guide actually came out first, so the guide gets {{1stm}} and the game gets {{1st}}. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 02:39, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Executor[]

Actually, I undid the edit because it was unsourced and I wasn't sure if it was speculation. The thing is, the Executor's a Featured Article, and any additions should really be taken to the nominator/writer—who in this case is Toprawa and Ralltiir. FAs have to pass regular FA Reviews, and the original author has to be the one to satisfy the reviewers' objections, if I'm not mistaken. I'd take your additions to him and see what he thinks. You definitely needs sources, though. Cade Calrayn 16:52, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Here are the image sources: They came from the Empire Strikes Back Sketchbook and TheForce.net

Weedle McHairybug (talk) 17:04, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Creating articles[]

When creating or editing articles, please recall that all articles should be properly categorized, and that all in-universe articles should be written in the past tense. Thank you for your cooperation. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 15:45, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Capture[]

I don't actualy have the Far Orbit Project, so I can't expand. In creating the article I pretty much just used the scant info from Warfare. Most things relating to that are pretty bare though, including the Capture, and I think Far Orbit Project related material needs a lot of work done on them. 501st dogma^(talk) 17:25, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Darth Vader expansion.[]

Sure, no problem. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 13:30, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

HELO[]

hello friend, help me please, is a question I want to do, in the version of force unleashed for ps2, wii and psp, what is the name of the weapon that imperial jumptroopers and imperial officers use...HELP!!!!

Categories[]

Thank you for contributing to Wookieepedia. However, when creating new articles, please be sure to add categories. Thank you for your cooperation.—Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 19:57, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

• Also, please be sure to properly format the Sources section as I did here.—Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 20:05, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Royal Award Ceremony[]

Hello there. Well, I shall create the actual article as soon as I am satisfied with my draft. I intend to do something status-wise with this article—at least a Good Article, perhaps even a Featured Article. Were you interested in something about it? :) --LelalMekha (talk) 01:06, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

• All right. If you have any advice/opinion about the article, just let me know! ;-) I like to hear from everybody, especially since English is not my mother tongue. --LelalMekha (talk) 01:16, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Scout Trooper[]

Hello Weedle, in answer to your question about the Scout Trooper tricked by Han, he has not been named to date. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 01:14, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

• I was ready to say: "Off the top of my head, I have no idea". I do believe, like Hanzo, that he is still unnamed, but I do not think he already has an article. I may want to search in Star Wars: Behind the Magic tomorrow, however. --LelalMekha (talk) 01:18, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
  • The Tempest Force article has seemingly done a good job comprehensively listing the names of each member. And I've looked through that card set, this character indeed appears to be unnamed. However, I do wonder if Irol is one of the others with him, who pursue the Ewok. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 01:22, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Dyer[]

I am currently rewriting his entire article in preparation for the FAN. It could be another week before I take down the inuse tag. JangFett ^(Talk) 14:22, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

• The "unlucky" was just apart of a description from Insider 105. Basically it is nothing more than just writer opinion and I could not fit it into the article. JangFett ^(Talk) 00:33, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Creating articles, again[]

You've been told before to follow all site policies when creating new articles. This is not a hard thing to do. Further disregard for site policies will result in a block from editing. Thank you for your cooperation. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 15:35, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the whole thing about the site policies, the problem is I don't even know which categories to put it under. I'm as irritated as you right now at this issue myself. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 15:43, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

On Ewoks and Empire[]

I wouldn't dare to say that I'm an expert, but I can be really devoted to searching and extracting a specific information from a bundle of sources. To be honest, I don't feel too comfortable with such policy issues (the Vietnam War) and the likes, especially when it comes to American politics—after all, I'm an old-school European. To me, America is a galaxy far, far away, which is covered extensively by the media. Regardless, if you ask, I can look for this information in the sources I possess—even though it doesn't ring a bell at the moment—but I hope this won't bring me into partisan issues. --LelalMekha (talk) 00:01, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry, it won't, at least from me. When trying to edit articles, I usually try to take my job as an editor very seriously. For example, although I personally harbor disgust for the Viet Cong, I won't make that clear in any of my edits regarding the Ewoks by making flame baiting additions to them. Besides, while I do lean conservative, my actual affiliation is closer to an Independent, anyways, so I doubt I'll go to partisan rhetoric anyways. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 00:08, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

• • No offense intended, but please, just do not tell me about your, er, "disgust" or anything like that. I can do the research—though I'm not sure I can dig up anything—but I really don't even want to know about that. It makes me very uneasy, and I think politics and such borderline, touchy subjects should not be brought on Wookieepedia, even in talk pages. This being said, I'll have a look at my sources, and if I come across anything, I'll let you know.v--LelalMekha (talk) 00:25, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
    • Alright. (Mimes zipper over mouth). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 00:27, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

New articles - sources and formatting[]

Weedle: Please be more careful in the future. You created this article with no sources. You also need to be sure that you're writing in the past tense for In-Universe articles. You've been warned repeatedly for your lack of proper formatting and details in articles. Please be sure to be more careful in the future. Failure to do so could result in a block.—Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 01:58, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

• Also, Cal may not agree with me on this, but I'd prefer if you left the redlinks to someone who has access to the comics in question. My personal reasoning behind leaving those redlinks in the timeline was so that users who are knowledgeable about those sources and have access to them can create detailed articles for the events in question. When someone creates a redlink just to fill it in, it causes the article in question to sink below the surface of the Wook and results in the articles often being ignored. Redlinks are spotlights pointing users to places they can add their knowledge, and creating them with the bare minimum of info takes the focus off the redlinks and often hurts the new articles. Cade Calrayn 02:33, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

SW.com[]

Thanks for pointing that out. I was forgetting to chop off "starwars.com" from the beginning of the url in the template, so it was liking to "starwars.com/starwars.com". NaruHina ^Talk 12:59, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

• Well, it's a start, but it's still going to a dead link on the backup link, even with the dropping of starwars.com. Similar problems exist with the Star Wars Galaxies archive links. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 13:01, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
  • It's not a start, it's an end. The archive links are not going to work because those pages haven't been archived by the Wayback Machine and we have no control over that. More articles from Sw.com have been archived than not, so we leave the template as it sits. They don't preserve videos anyway, I don't believe. NaruHina ^Talk 13:04, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
    • Okay. Can we at least fix the sourced archive links for some of the Star Wars Galaxies site sources, though? They get redirected to the current site layout, which is not helpful at all, and the sources are indeed archived (I checked), and my attempt at it was not only not likely helpful, it seems to have made things worse. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 13:13, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
      • Could you point me to an article with the template you're referring to, so I can take a look at it? NaruHina ^Talk 13:17, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
        • Sure: Life Day. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 16:19, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

The Clone Wars Season 5 episode 1 SHE DIES![]

How could Stass Allie command in the battle of coruscant if she DIED before if happened? She dies in Clone Wars Season 5 episode 1 IT'S CONFIRMED that she didn't fight in the battle of coruscant. If you don't believe me then search it up and watch the show thank you. Best Regards --Edak Trebmil (talk) 15:51, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know why you're asking me this, as I didn't interact with you before regarding anything, much less the issue of Stass Allie's status in the Clone Wars. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 16:30, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

Re:File of deactivated army[]

It is a command center. As numerous factions had such buildings, I'm not sure if each needs an individual article. Each one pretty much does the same for each faction. Other buildings such as fortresses have special features for each faction, so I'd say they could warrant individual articles. I'm talking to admin right now about how we should best handle this. MasterFred^(Whatever) 20:14, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Endor and the Vietnam War: update[]

Hey Weedle. I don't know if you're still researching this field, but I found this while skimming through Star Wars: Behind the Magic: Lucas first became intrigued with the idea of a primitive tribe battling the technologically advanced Imperials while developing the Vietnam film Apocalypse Now. When he later decided to puruse Star Wars, he continued to be fascinated by this theme. Therefore, first the Wookiees and later the Ewoks were conceived as primitive warriors who ultimately triumph over a well-armed enemy. Lucas also maintains that there are inentional parallels between the Ewoks ant the Viet Cong, and the Galactic Emperor and Richard Nixon.

This is from 1998, and that's the earliest source I could find—although there must be older ones. --LelalMekha (talk) 01:21, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

X1[]

That's cool. Keep in mind, though, that statements based on an author saying things like " I imagined that..." aren't canon. They can be noted in "Behind the scenes" as authorial intent, but that's about it. Menkooroo (talk) 13:30, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

Imperial Garrison Base[]

Hey Weedle. Thanks for the cleanup on Imperial Garrison Base. Are you sure we could pinpoint it's destruction at 0 ABY, though? I haven't read Tatooine Sojourn yet (I'm trying to find it online), but from what I inferred from the article, the base was destroyed some time after, without specifying when. Pinpointing dates this precisely seems like a strech, given that Tatooine Sojourn's article puts its events at circa 0 ABY, and Galactic Spy doesn't have a cohesive story or timeline (spanning from eps. I to IV). Stake black ^msg 16:27, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

The story mentions the destruction of the Death Star, which likewise implies that it took place around 0 ABY. The article did at one point mention that it was 1 ABY, but I replaced it with 0 ABY based on what I knew at that time. You can read the comic here: http://dailysw.blogspot.com/search/label/Tatooine%20Sojourn Weedle McHairybug (talk) 16:35, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks man. I didn't understand the story very well, though. I'm thinking of proposing this article as a good article, but I reckon there would have to be more explanation in the two last paragraphs regarding the events prior to the destruction of the base. If you're not too busy and would like to help out, that'd be super. Thanks. Stake black ^msg 20:48, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Hey again. I'm currently nominating Imperial Garrison Base to good article status and your input would be very welcome. Thanks. Stake black ^msg 18:05, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Reconquest of the Rim[]

I was working on it, but then I got sidetracked by Marvel comics updates (and while the post-RotJ Marvel articles are exemplary, the ones prior to that are lacking). I will get back to it. It is hard to work with limited sources that engage the subject matter but in summary, because one is forced to seek middle ground between copying the text (which is, of course, an act of plagiarism) and being lax with it, which is the bane of countless articles in this website (the second choice is frankly far worse than plagiarism, because Star Wars authors use Wookieepedia as a source, and a mistake may find itself in print).--R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 (talk) 00:16, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Happy New Year![]

Hey, I wanna wish you a happy new year! :) --XXLVenom998 (talk) 11:00, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Article deletion[]

I deleted the article because it was poorly-written speculation (and borderline fanon) that appears to be based on something from a future episode of The Clone Wars series. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 00:31, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Star Tours flights, etc[]

Just wanted to mention that I noticed you working on adding Star Tours flights from the flight status boards, I assume. I'm actually putting together a list of those flghts, times, etc, and intend to create articles for them. As an aside, I've noticed that most flights labeled "LANDED," "ON APPROACH," and "BOARDING" on those lists consistently have a time around 0800, suggesting that the Star Tours 2 flight takes place around 8:00 in the morning. :) --JMM (talk) 13:28, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. And good to know. I had to base most of my information on the screencaps supplied by EndorExpress.net, which unfortunately cut off several gate areas especially in the Arrival section. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 13:38, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

I found a lot more online on flickr, youtube videos, etc. I didn't realize you created so many already. I'll only add pages for ones you've already done. I think it would also be good to eventually add that the flight happened "around the time of the Raid on Star Tours space station" or something like that. Different for flights from the first Star Tours ride, obviously. --JMM (talk) 17:32, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

One other random thing that occurred to me while making these articles: If the flight's in the departure list, I'm assuming the time listed is the time the speeder is supposed to take off from the Star Tours space station. If it's in the arrivals, I assumed it's the time it's supposed to get to the space station. I think that follows along with real airports. An airport only cares about times a plane leaves or gets to that airport. --JMM (talk) 19:23, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

AND one more thing. :) I think it makes sense to consider flights with more than one planet listed to mean the flight is making multiple stops. That's how you seemed to be doing it. I was just thinking it was a mistake. Your way fits better! --JMM (talk) 19:55, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I've done I could for the flights. At least for tonight. Looked through Flickr and EndorExpress, and we're fresh out. Heck, I even had to squeeze in some ETAs and planets that otherwise listed nothing else thanks to one of the photos being cut off to the right on Flickr.

BTW, can you try to supply me with actual videos of the individual scenes from the ride so I'd be able to better edit the sections of articles that deal with those scenes? The ones I found on youtube either cut it completely short, or are in extremely bad quality despite showing the scenes in full. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 23:49, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Here are two very good looks at the ride here, and here. The second shows almost all, if not all, the destinations, with lots of footage cut together. Oh, and by the way, on the ride's page, I added in that it happened around 0700 hours, and included my reason for that. --JMM (talk) 14:11, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

G2-T9[]

Hey Weedle. I saw that you added a sentence to the Great Temple's article: "At some point, the Star Tours security check-in droid G2-9T heard of the base, and accidentially let slip of its existence before stopping himself." Do you have the exact quote? That would be interesting: since the Great Temple was only recovered by the Alliance in 1 BBY, that would mean that the events of "Star Tours II" happen between 1 and 0 BBY. --LelalMekha (talk) 22:11, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Sure do: "G2-9T: Uh, is anyone here travelling to Yavin 4? Home of the secret Rebel base? Oops! Home of the previously secret rebel base..." You can find it on 1:45 of this video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io7HhGJfzRg Weedle McHairybug (talk) 22:17, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, that's great. Now, I'm going to share my conclusions on narrowing down the dating of Star Tours II to SavageBob. I'm sure he'll be interested. Cheers. --LelalMekha (talk) 22:21, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

As I just mentioned on SavageBob's talk page, another reason to date it 1 BBY or later is Ackbar appears as a free member of the Alliance, which would have to happen after his rescue in 1 BBY. But, aside from the usual anachronistic issues with a battle on Hoth, separatists showing up, etc, I also note that the Death Star should presumably be orbiting Despayre from about 2 BBY to 0 BBY, not Geonosis. Though I think the ride can be treated like a video game where the general event happened, but the details can vary with "reality" a bit. --JMM (talk) 13:59, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Well, we do know, at the very least with Geonosis being a Death Star spot, that Geonosis did act as a construction area for the Death Star, as stated in the 2012 guidebook The Essential Guide to Warfare, although it didn't specify whether it was early or late construction. You mentioned Hoth as well, though I think there was a Battle of Hoth around 0 BBY as well from Rebel Assault, so it might have been that one. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 14:04, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that's true about Rebel Assault, but that battle doesn't really make much sense, either. :) --JMM (talk) 14:12, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Hoth/Tina[]

Thanks, I wasn't aware of that Hoth/Tina story. As far as the rest of the translation is concerned, I've made major progress yesterday before I went to bed; I successfully assigned meaning to all the writing in katakana, which should aloow my friend to read them in context. You can well imagine that, if you weren't a Star Wars fan, you wouldn't understand a word such as Alderaan in a text. Same goes for a Japanese speaker, who would not recognize アルデラーン (Aruderaan) unless he were told what it is. My friend and I won't start working again on it until tonight, but I can tell you that the goggle-eyed creature in the bottom right is called a... possum. --LelalMekha (talk) 09:55, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

date removal[]

The reason is that infoboxes are not for speculation. No verified source has stated those GrS dates so it is pure speculation on the user's behalf. If you feel strongly you could place it in the behind the scenes or on the talk page. Rokkur Shen (talk) 12:39, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not the one who actually created them, so I really can't be bothered to explain my reasonings for keeping it or trying to move it. Like I said, you should ask Cade Catalryn, as he's the one who actually created those dating systems in the first place. And BTW, I doubt he broke rules regarding this, as he would have been banned a long time ago if he had. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 12:44, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

• Ultimately if a user has a problem with my edits they can address me directly. I'm not pushing for any particular user to be banned as you seem to imply. I simply removed unverified speculation from an infobox. I'm not going to go instigating arguments with other users because you yourself have an issue with my edits. Thankyou. Rokkur Shen (talk) 13:00, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Japanese translations[]

Unfortunately, the elephant-thing remains a complete mystery to both my friend and I. Its name seem to be somehting like "eresupaddo", but beyond that, we cannot tell. If it's meant to be a transription of a foreign loan word—as the use of katakana syllabary suggests—we have absolutely no idea which word it would be. We're currently planning to translate whole pages of the manual (pages 2-3, 6-7 and 18-19), but we won't be able to do it too soon, since my friend is currently in exam session. --LelalMekha (talk) 13:12, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Sidious quote[]

The quote is from Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force -- from Palpatine's holocron. As my copy of the book is in a different country right now, I cannot check, but the Preview function of the Amazon website (which is a scholarly tool in all but name) confirms that the quote appears in page 178. I believe I added it to the Palpatine article at some point. Or maybe some other article, I can't recall. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 (talk) 22:44, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Echo Base medical lab[]

Hey Weedle, additions such as the one you've just made need to be cited in the article otherwise they could be construed as fanon and removed. Rokkur Shen (talk) 13:08, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

I listed Rebel Strike in the appearance section in the same edit, so where it came from should have been obvious from that alone. Nonetheless, I did add in the citation after you mentioned it. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 13:11, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

Thankyou, you also need to cite your addition to Palpatine's lightsabers. You may want to refresh yourself/review the Wookieepedia:Layout Guide on how to appropriately add information to pages and use citations/references. Rokkur Shen (talk) 13:15, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

Just so we're clear, when you said my addition to Palpatine's lightsabers, do you mean the duel itself or that Palpatine was forced to fight Yoda with one lightsaber? Weedle McHairybug (talk) 13:17, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

• The edit you specifically made about the one lightsaber. You need to cite everything you add. If the trivia gallery mentioned it then a citation needs to be added within the article. Explaining an edit in the edit summary is encouraged, however it is not sufficient to justify what you've added. Rokkur Shen (talk) 13:21, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

Trivia[]

Weedle, please see WP:TRIVIA before inserting information in TCW episode behind the scenes sections. Thank you, JangFett ^(Talk) 22:56, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

• Yes, any information from someone official could work, but it would be better to know what that project is. JangFett ^(Talk) 23:22, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
  • Yeah. I would have mentioned the name of the project had they listed it. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 23:51, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Reverts[]

Want to prevent future illogical and unexplained reverts to your edits? Then vote here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Requests for user rights Every user should be aware of this page. Anononon (talk) 03:54, July 27, 2011. —Unsigned comment by 66.232.118.195 (talk • contribs). 13:01, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

• FYI, the above remark is spam that the user with the numerical IP address, 66.232.118.195, posted in several editors' Talk pages. The user attempted to hide identifiable information by posting with a false signature and timestamp. You'll be happy to know that this has earned him a 3 year ban of his IP by Grunny, including having his account creation disabled and his e-mail blocked. I have struck the invalid signature and timestamp above and marked the user's comment as {{unsigned}} so that it accurately shows correct information. —Gethralkin^Hyperwave 02:24, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Editing requests for other wikis.[]

I am sorry that I did not reply sooner to you. I am a Japanese, but not a gamer. I have not played those games. Therefore, I think that I cannot become your help. Please understand. Z-sword (talk) 13:33, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

I understand completely. Do you at least know anyone on the various wikis who is both Japanese and a gamer, though? Weedle McHairybug (talk) 13:42, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Dyer[]

As I mentioned in my edit summary in Dyer, I'll make a note in the bts. Simply stating (apparent) in the infobox won't work. Thanks for the input. JangFett ^(Talk) 03:25, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Tokyo Disneyland Star Tours[]

I went to the TDL and enjoyed the Star Tours 2 a few days ago. But I'm sorry that I didn't watch the message screen very carefully. In the youtube, I can read some Japanese letters including "Droid Claim' and "Baby Center". The other small and low quality letters.... I can't read them, either. In next oppotunity to go the TDL, I will note the infomations. Please wait. Z-sword (talk) 16:38, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Spot the droid poster[]

Timely, Endorexpress.net uploaded the old images of the Start Tours Tokyo booklet. The informations that the poster said was completely equivalent to those images. Z-sword (talk) 15:26, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

I actually managed to find that out before you posted it, but thanks anyways. Call it a lucky break in regards to JMM and Endorexpress declassifying that poster image. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 18:12, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Edge of the Galaxy[]

What's Edge of the Galaxy? Sorry, I cannot understand the last message. Dan Android's tourscan didn't mention about the location of Praya and Bar-Neth. Z-sword (talk) 14:56, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

Edge of the Galaxy was the spaceport video on the tourscan, the one based on Brava Centauri from Horizons. It can be seen briefly when the video plays. Not that it matters, now, since someone already created the article. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 14:58, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

Spaceport THX1138 video[]

Hi

I got all info in the Spaceport THX1138 video. Italic parts are originally in Japanese. XX:YY is the time of the video. Z-sword (talk) 16:25, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

00:33 BAGGAGE CLAIM - LEVEL A

• NOUTH WING
• SOUTH WING
• CORE PLANETS
• OUTER RIM
• OVERFLOW CLAIM
• LIFT TUBE ACCESS

00:42 DROID CLAIM - LEVEL B

• DROID REGISTRY
• RESTRAINING BOLT REMOVAL
• RESTRAINING BOLT SALES
• DROID ASSEMBLY
• COLLECTION
• DROID REPAIR
• PA DROID SCANNING

00:51 DROID CUSTOMS - LEVEL C

• CERTIFICATION
• MEMORY BACKUP
• MEMORY WIPE STATION
• INSPECTION 1 SCAN
• DROID REGISTRY
• CERTIFICATION

00:56 CLINIC & BABY CENTER - LEVEL D

• BACTA TANKS
• DOCTORS STATION
• APUATIC NEWBORNS
• PRESONAL ASSISTANCE DROIDS
• MEDICAL/SURGISAL DROIDS
• INCUBATION PODS

01:03 DUTY RREE - LEVEL C

• POWER CONVERTERS
• BACTA SURPLUS
• OUTER RIM SOUVENIRS
• RWH DROID SURPLUS
• HOLO RECORDERS

01:20 THE NEBULA TRILLION PARSEC CLUB - LEVEL G

LOUNGES FOR EXPERT SPACERS

• CAPTAINS CORNER
• SABAAC TABLES
• CLUB KESSEL
• PRIORITY LIFT TUBES
• OFFCER'S ROUBGE
• MEMBERSHIP SERVICES

01:29 STARGAZER GRILL RESTAURANT - LEVEL F

YOU CAN ENJOY DISHES BEING SURROUNDED BY STARS.

• AGAMAR SLIDERS
• ENDORIAN CHICKEN
• BLUE MILK
• CALAMARIA SURPRISE
• NERFSTEAK
• ROAST GALMA
• LAMBRO SHARK
• BERBERSIAN CRAB

01:38 MUNILIST CREDIT EXCHANGE - LEVEL C

YOU CAN EXCHANGE THE CREDITS OF ALL PLANETS.

• REPUBLIC CREDITS
• CORELLIAN CREDITS
• ADUMARI CREDCOINS
• AURODIUM COINS
• IMPERIALCREDITS
• CREDIT VOUCHERS

01:48 OUTER RIM RESTAURANT AND LOUNGE - LEVEL A

WE CAN PROVIDE MEALS AND DRINKS FOR ALL KINDS OF BEING.

• HIVE CANTINA
• MANDALORIAN KRI'GEE
• GARRMORL
• TWIN SUNS SPECIAL
• ITHORIAN BRANDY
• KEELA
• POLAR WATER

01:55 AIR TO GROUND TRANSPORTATION - LEVEL B

YOU MUST USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTS TO GO TO THE SURFACE.

• SSP FREIGHTERS
• LINE-OPERATED SHUTTLES
• INDEPENDENT STAR CRUISERS
• PERSONAL SHUTTLES
• CEC CLASS TRANSPORTS

Thanks, I'll add in this information very soon. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 16:31, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Wow, that is a lot of information! I was hoping we'd eventually get to find out what all that text said. Thanks. --JMM (talk) 16:51, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

This video also features two versions of "Be a Stormtrooper!", including each 4 "Wanted by the Empire" characters. They have pictures and names written in small aurebesh. I translated the aliens' names to English. Z-sword (talk) 18:14, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

• PART A: The Mon Cal is Meena Tills. (1:09)
• PART B: The Ishi Tib is Gume Saam, and the Hutt is Jabba. (2:32)

Okay, eight criminals in all. From the looks of it, the criminals in the first one are Yoda, Leia Organa, Meena Tills (thanks z-sword!), and I guess Obi-Wan Kenobi (Prequel trilogy-era, although its somewhat understandable, since that was probably the most current one they have in possession since he's in hiding and he's adopted an alias as well, and on a backwater desert planet), and the criminals in the second one are Han Solo, Gume Saam (double thanks to z-sword), Luke Skywalker, and Jabba Desilijic Tiure (triple thanks). I can see why Yoda, Obi-Wan, Leia, and Han are on there (Yoda, obviously, had fled from the duel with Sidious, Obi-Wan was a surviving Jedi, and they probably were aware of his survival of Order 66 thanks to his attacking Clone troopers at the Jedi Temple, Leia was already on the lam a few times from the Empire as hinted at in some of the games taking place before her capture, and Han Solo assaulted an officer regarding Chewbacca and did mercenary work for the Rebel Alliance prior to Yavin), but I'm a bit surprised Luke already was wanted for treason, given the time frame occurring prior to Yavin (at least a year, if even less). Then again, that's probably because of either his escaping Tatooine or because of the actions the Lars committed that had gotten themselves killed regarding droids. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 19:06, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

When I saw Luke on there I just figured it's a bit of a continuity error. Han could be wanted at this time, but even Leia probably wouldn't be a known, wanted criminal since she still pretends to be only a diplomat in the first movie. --JMM (talk) 19:13, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

I guess Luke is probably a continuity error. I'm pretty sure he never actually got himself recruited into the Imperial military (unless one counts the Tatooine mission in Rebel Strike as canon, where he did a little test drive of an AT-ST at Tosche Station). However, I think there was a mission in the X-wing games where the player had to hold off Imperial forces and save the Tantive IV from capture, that clearly took place before Tatooine, and even in A New Hope/Star Wars, C-3PO implied that the events on Tatooine weren't the first time Leia had run-ins with the Empire (mentioning that she's not likely to escape "this time."). Well, whatever, at least we know what the videos were likely saying. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 19:36, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

New Infomations of the TDL Star Tours[]

Hi

I give you two of new infomations. Use them as necessary.

In the entrance hall, the Starpeeder 1000 video has some detail infomations written by Aurebesh. It is very difficult to watch them in youtube. I translated them. See it.

There are two RX pilot droids in TDL. One is hitch-hiking and another is talking some old-version's quotes. Their container boxes have seals with the name of each droids. According to them, hitch-hiking RX is HHG-RX(Hitch HikinG RX!) and old-quote RX is RX-23. Sorry, it was too dark and difficult to shot photos. Z-sword (talk) 15:33, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Managed to create the RX droids' articles, and I added in as much information as possible regarding the StarSpeeder 1000's aurebesh detail. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 03:27, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I had a mistake. RX-23 is the third RX droid in the queue and it is silence. RX-23 is a red RX droid. Old-version-quotes-RX is RX-24 itself! I have corrected the article. Z-sword (talk) 12:45, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

additional information.

I found the container box stickers' images. See it. (It is not my shot.) I think you can read RX-23, HHG-RX, and IM-2M. IM-2M is a IM-series droid. There is only one real IM-series droid in the TDL's queue. Probably that is IM-2M. Z-sword (talk) 16:12, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Got it. Made sure I created the IM-2M article, as well. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 16:21, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Praya and Edge of Galaxy[]

Hey. I did intend to work on these other articles one day or another, but why exactly do we need to "do it soon"? --LelalMekha (talk) 19:06, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, it can be any time you wish as long as it doesn't take too long. Sorry for that remark. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 19:10, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Legacy[]

Hey Weedle, what are the differences between Star Wars: Legacy Book 1 and Star Wars: Legacy Volume 1 (Hardcover)? They both have the same source link in the external link section. JangFett ^(Talk) 18:20, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm not exactly certain. All I know is that it was listed in red under the list of future comics article, citing it as a Hardcover, and I figured, someone had to make it, especially seeing how its nearing its supposed release date. After it was deleted, I then tried to find a source. That was the closest match I could find, and even that indicated it was already released. I'm not sure who hyperlinked it or put it on there, either. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 18:23, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

• Possibly the Volume I hardcover is this? [1] JangFett ^(Talk) 18:27, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

• Apparently, it is. Then again, it's release date is listed as the 25th, not the 12th. Still, it's close enough, as it's at least actually a TBR item and not one that's actually released. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 18:33, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

• If only a source was given in the List of future comic article. :P JangFett ^(Talk) 18:48, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Legacy Book[]

Things go by different names sometimes on this wiki, and some pages like List of comics, never see the light of an update. However, Dark Horse calls it Star Wars: Legacy Book 1 and the Dark Horse release is June 5. The June 12 is just when bookstores receive it. Sorry for the lack of communication.Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 19:50, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

• Before I do anything, are we sure that they are the same and the List of comics had an error? If so, then I'll delete the Hardcover article with the CSD tag. JangFett ^(Talk) 22:47, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re: MPTL[]

Thanks! I actually wasn't really heading in that direction, but because it was related to another article that I was editing and I happened to notice the really bad incongruities, I felt I had to do something. Then I found out that it wasn't the only article and I had to go over several others to get them to agree with the sources:

• Proton torpedo launcher (disambiguation)
• Heavy Proton Torpedo Launcher (vehicle)
• Mobile Proton Torpedo Launcher
• Mobile Proton Torpedo Launcher-2a
• Proton Torpedo Launcher (vehicle)
• Proton torpedo launcher (weapon)

Plus, I have had to resort to investigating every single source and linked article in order to dig up useful information. For example, the only reference that MPLT-2a units appear in Star Wars: Empire at War: Forces of Corruption is in its own article under the listed Appearances. No mention of them in EaW:FoC article, so I tracked it down to an image showing a couple of MPLT-2a under attack from a couple of TIE Lancets on the Proton beam cannon page. TIE Lancets only appear in Star Wars: Empire at War: Forces of Corruption, so since MPLT-2a are only referenced as being in the game in its own article—without a sourced Bts note—I now had visual evidence to add MPLT-2a to the list in the EaW:FoC article. I have never played Star Wars: Empire at War, Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds (or any of their expansions), so it's a lot of research trying to nail something down. As far as what was used to hit Blizzard 1, I have no idea, sorry. —Gethralkin^Hyperwave 08:16, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Lists deletion[]

You can write out the information into paragraphs, but yea, that is a bit of work. The pages haven't lost anything by the lists being deleted, because all of the information from the list is in the categories at the bottom of the page, but is cluttering the article itself. Trip391 (talk) 21:36, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

My problem with the lists being deleted is that not all of them have the categories section at the bottom. So I do think the pages lose something by deleting the lists on pages that don't have the categories section at the bottom. --Mastersinatra (talk) 06:37, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Threeps[]

Hey, good call on the re-shuffling of the MyComyc series in Threepio's article. I initially reverted your edit and then realized my mistake before spending two or three edits fixing it! :D I think that the last five comics can now all comfortably fit after the Mungo arc, with the Fromm Gang canonically released from Jabba and Broom being inspired by the Heep. What do you think? Menkooroo (talk) 01:24, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Bast[]

I'm a little confused by this: In addition, Bast, due to witnessing how Vader dealt with foolish officers who made the mistake of assuming the latter to be subservient to Tarkin, always showed his respect. What's the latter referring to and is the foolish officer Motti? Does the source actually say "foolish?" Any clarification would be great since I'm going to reword this a little. Also, is there any information about Cassio Tagge? Thanks, Weedle. JangFett ^(Talk) 15:21, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

It does say "fools" in there, at least. I'll even quote the source for you:

Star Wars: The Complete Visual Dictionary: Page 230: Chain of Command: "Although some self-important officers made the mistake of assuming that Vader is subservient to Tarkin, Bast witnesses how Vader deals with fools, and always shows his respect." And anyways, I was trying to implement what the guide says. It might be referring to Motti, but it really doesn't say, plus the plural use of fools would imply more than just Motti in either case. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 15:28, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

• No problem then. Thanks, JangFett ^(Talk) 15:49, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Raid[]

Done. Thanks for clarifying. :) JangFett ^(Talk) 18:09, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

A little question for you...[]

Hey, first of all, thank you for all the help on my pages. I'm not much of a wordsmith myself, so any assist I get is very helpful.

That said, I have a question for you. Should I create pages of Wookiee Villagers and Geonosian Workers and if so, what infoboxes would be the most suitable for them?

PS:In case you missed them, I added pictures to Kaminoan droids and filled those redlinks in the Food processing center. --Za'rath (talk) 16:03, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Word to the wise, though: Next time you want to add in multiple images, try to incorporate the images into the sections somehow.

As far as the Wookiee Villagers and the Geonosis Workers, so long as they have a lot of information about them, decent enough to require an article, go on ahead, but otherwise, just incorporate them into the standard Wookiee or Geonosian articles.

I'll also try to do the Klaatu articles for you, since you uploaded the pics. I'm a bit busy right now since I have two papers to work on (one I barely started on, and one I'm just barely finished with). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:02, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

about Passenger droid T3[]

Hi. Do you know the source of the name T3 (Star Tours)? I think the only source is Endorexpress.net. In retro-Tokyo article, however, the old booklet's second image only says that T3 is Passenger Droid.
Like the other F-series droids, the passenger droid had name markings in his chest plate. See this image. But none could confirm the letters, because he was always in the telephone box.
But... I found a hint of his real name. See this image. This is from one of old TDL StarTours booklets. According to the Lady Droid's text, she is a girlfriend of F-29. I think the passenger dorid's name is not T3 but F-29. What do you think about it?

P.S. I found these two images in the twitter of a Japanese disney fan.Z-sword (talk) 15:52, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

• That seems reasonable, especially because he IS the same model as the other F-series. Let me check on it a little more. --JMM (talk) 16:44, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

I found. The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia's F-22 article says that F-22 worked along with F-25 and F-29. F-22, 23, 24, 25 have already identified. I believe only five F-droids existed in TDL. The last one was telephone box droid. Z-sword (talk) 04:56, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Made the move from T3 to F-29. Also noted that he worked at Star Tours thanks to that tidbit from the Encyclopedia that you mentioned. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 15:30, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

• Wow, had no idea about that entry in the Encyclopedia. Interesting that he also really isn't a "Passenger Droid" but I suppose he could be going somewhere as a passenger during the time of his appearance in the ride. Also, it actually calls F-25 "F-25-OJS". I noticed that pictures you can see of those droids include those letters on the end of their names. I'd suggest we can add the longer names into the text of the articles, but still keep the titles the shorter names they're better known by. --JMM (talk) 16:15, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps all five droids had thier own long-names. F-29 is F-29-PSXx or F-29-PSKx? F-22 is F-22-ACM? F-23 and 24's long names are unknown. They were standing at very high position so that we couldn't see their name. Unfortunately the droids were removed from TDL completely and all remaining photos were unclear. I have no way to comfirm the long-names exactly. Z-sword (talk) 17:02, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

• • Some of the videos I found online show some close ups. I will try to look at those and see if I can find those long names. --JMM (talk) 15:24, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
    • Just added some of the longer names. And as for that F-29 picture, you're right... it could be either K or X, but at least one other had a K in that section, and Xx would look strange, let's just call it K! --JMM (talk) 15:50, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your editing. It is regrettable that F-24's longer name cannot be unidentified. I hate the yellow bar!! Z-sword (talk) 16:59, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I did some sleuthing around: The good news is that I found an image of F-24 that isn't obscured by the yellow bar. The bad news, however, is that he's obscured by the grated floor of the deck he is on, and the image is somewhat small. Hope you've got a good image enhancement program on your computer, because at this point, you are definitely going to need one. Here's the site I found it on: http://www.starwars.jp/databank/startours/index.html Weedle McHairybug (talk) 17:24, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps F-24's image in that webpage is actually F-22's , not F-24's. Z-sword (talk) 17:56, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

Like I said, if you don't have an image enhancement software for your computer, I strongly suggest you get one, because at this point, that's the ONLY way you'll be able to come close to IDing the full name of F-24, since there are images that don't have the nameplate obscured by the yellow bar handrail. I definitely know EndorExpress has some images without the yellow bar. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 19:31, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

I found a nice photo. F-24-AMTx? Z-sword (talk) 11:56, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd say those are the right letters. That's likely the best image we're going to get. I'm going to add it. --JMM (talk) 14:39, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Lady Droid[]

The Lady Droid's description in the EndorExpress.net is a mis-translation. Spot the Droid poster's Japanese text says that she wants to be an actress and goes to the talent school to this end. It don't say that she wants to direct. I edited the article a few months ago, but be re-edited. I am a native Japanese speaker. I am right.

And see the talk page of F-22. F-22's quotes (in Japanese) included some in-universe terms, his favarite night spot Alien Quarter Cantina and the house band Rolling Droids. If they should be added to Wookieepedia, please create the articles. I'm not an English speaker, so don't do well. Z-sword (talk) 17:09, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Hi[]

I watched the Afterburner video, but it is unoffocial. If what you said is right, don't you find something a little bit wrong or disrespectful in cheering against America in such a senitive matter(if that is the suggestion)? —Unsigned comment by 60.225.195.213 (talk • contribs).

I do find it wrong/disrespectful in more than a little bit. Actually, it was thanks to that revelation that, if I were a character in Star Wars, I'd be neither for the Empire nor for the Rebel Alliance (as the Rebel Alliance from the implications of things would have been the Communists, and given what they tried to do with us Christians, that's not a good feeling at all). It is something that I'm very unlikely to forgive George Lucas for, knowing that the Communists tried to exterminate my fellow Christians. Also, I did research on Bing to verify where exactly this was stated since I've found this out. The closest I came to looking for where Lucas stated this was in one of the DVD commentaries/Empire of Dreams, which ARE official. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:36, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

The Empire is ruthlessly secular, and we know the Rebels fight for individuality and freedom. More so a line in a deleted scene from Star Wars establishes that the Empire is taking over all commerce. I don't believe at all that the Rebellion represents the communists. That is why I thought it important to amend the page for the Empire to clarify what I think comes through Lucas' comments, that he was picking up on the idea of technologically inferior powers overcoming their disadvantage in the context of Vietnam, rather than a full political thesis.

60.225.195.213 07:05, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe, but I still wish Lucas would have at least cited the Minutemen from the American War for Independence, or heck, even the French Resistance's actions against Nazi Germany during WWII. Both more than qualified for the human spirit overcoming the technological superiority of their foes, and at the same time were undeniably not communist or anything similar (The Founding Fathers, most of them anyways, were devout Protestants, and besides which, the French Resistance even utilized one of the crucifixes as their logo). I know Lucas would have at least heard about the actions of the Minutemen. Aside from the fact that my various times at school at least taught us about the American Revolution and how we won it, not to mention that this was despite our being disadvantaged by the British Empire, my Aunt Susan knew this as well, and she was about as liberal as George Lucas, not to mention she, like Lucas, was a genuine child of the 1960s, frequently spending more of her time during her educational career protesting and doing other hippie stuff than actually doing her school work. I know if I were in Lucas' shoes and I wanted a metaphor for that kind of victory you described, I would have cited either the Minutemen back in the Revolutionary War, or just for a bit of relative contemporary nature, the French Resistance during WWII (certainly, I would have cited the Minutemen, being more familiar with that than with the French Resistance for obvious reasons). I would NEVER have used the Vietcong as an example of human freedom, because they are the exact opposite of that. If I were to cite that the Ewoks were the Vietcong, I would in fact be saying, knowingly or unknowingly, that the Rebel Alliance was composed of Communism. Besides, although I can probably forgive George Lucas for not realizing this, as Walter Cronkite omitted that detail and pushed that America lost despite knowing it wasn't true, the Vietcong did not actually win Vietnam. They actually got completely wiped out during the Tet Offensive, by us and the SVA, so they still wouldn't have qualified for the victory of the human spirit in either case. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 14:14, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

If you feel disappointed or concerned with Lucas, this should cheer you up: Youtube:Hire A Vet: Show Our Veterans The Support They Deserve , ABC news story: George Lucas Mentors Military Veteran

60.225.195.213 09:04, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Even though I would actually feel better from hearing this news, it actually isn't making me feel any better. Odd. I guess the instances of Hollywood supporting its troops emptily while at the same time bashing America and its troops even in the present has left me deeply cynical regarding this. Thanks for the effort, though. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 12:28, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Bill Whittle would make a great Rebel.

60.225.195.213 02:42, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Starwars.jp[]

I don't think the Japanese site is actually an official LFL site. It probably shouldn't be mentioned on the Death Star III pages since it's a fanmade source. --JMM (talk) 11:56, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Yes. That is the most popular Japanese fan-site. And the first SW site in Japan. There is no official Japanese SW site. Z-sword (talk) 12:21, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

My apologies, I thought it was an actual official LFL site because the hyperlink was typed in a similar manner to the LFL databank. I reverted the edits. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 13:57, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Favor[]

Well, I know some medals. Like I know the top were Hero of the Soviet Union and Hero of Labor. What is the favor? --Цар (talk) 04:09, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, in a game called Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, which is set in the Soviet Union, there's this GRU major named Ivan Raidenovitch Raikov. There are nine ribbon bars on his uniform, and I need some help identifying them. Being an American, and thus a total newb when it comes to Soviet honors (not that I particularly like the Soviet Union, but still...), not to mention Wikipedia was not of any help regarding this as well, I thought you might be of some help. Here's some image links:

Raikov and Officers (Note: Raikov is the guy with the girly hair)

HNI 0030 (This image was attempted by knocking him out and then taking a picture via the in-game camera during gameplay on Snake Eater 3D. As you can pretty much see, it's not a good photograph)

MGS3 Raikov crotch grab (Another angle, better quality than the 3DS image, but still not good enough. And before you ask, yes, Raikov is actually grabbing someone's crotch.)

There are also two ribbons that the character of Major Ocelot in the same game was wearing as well. He's GRU as well.

HNI 0029

Anyways, hope you can ID them. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 04:20, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Kuat[]

Weedle, please don't do this kind of stuff if you don't have the source and aren't willing to research it. The Mission to Kuat is a conjectural name and the mission was only mentioned in the novel. You're basing your edits on what is on Wookieepedia, and it'd be much better if you left redlinks to people who have the sources so that they can accurately create the article. Thanks. Cade Calrayn 17:22, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Earth stuff[]

Hi Weedle -- I added the President of the United States stuff to Earth (Star Tours), based on the discussion at Forum:SH:Merging "Earth" articles and the previous addition of a non-canon Indiana Jones appearance. I'd merge it with Urthha too, but not everyone seems to agree. —Silly Dan _(talk) 01:25, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Earth source[]

Actually, Star Tours pages from the Disney website seem to be ridiculously difficult to track. For example, I couldn't even access it directly because I'm European, and I was forced to use webarchives to get in! However, the link doesn't lead to the proper place anymore, and I have no clue how to get it back. :-/ --LelalMekha (talk) 10:47, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

• Okay. I guess that will have to wait until Archive.org ends up updating its archives to include it, if it ever does. I'm probably going to be in-and-out from now until December, since it will be the start of a new semester, and unlike prior semesters, I'm actually living on campus, at least for the actual weekdays when class is in session. Hopefully by Spring Semester 2014, I'm out of College. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 10:52, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Quote[]

I removed the quote you added to TIE Advanced x1 simply because it isn't in the format that {{Quote}} is used for. Quotes are mainly for dialogues, whereas what you are posting is referred to as a Publisher's comment. Such comments are given a new subheading (Publisher's comment) and italicized and eclosed with quotation marks. The attribution of the excerpt of or the full description is given in a ref tag at the end of the sourced material. Thanks. —Gethralkin^Hyperwave 22:14, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

• Oh. Sorry about that. I don't have enough time to do the changes since I have to leave for my college campus's dorm soon, and I'm most likely not going to be making edits to this site or any wiki until after December 17th, so as much as I want to do the changes, I'm not sure whether I have the capability of doing so right now. Plus, I don't know where to find the template for Publisher's comments so I could cut and paste it in there. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 22:18, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
  • That's fine. Fyi, in universe articles have in universe quotes. OOU articles also have quotes, but are OOU dialogue. Publisher comments are usually given (for IU articles) in the Bts sections. OOU articles usually include them in the Publisher's summary sections. So it isn't a template, but just "Italicized and written out material as quoted." —Gethralkin^Hyperwave 22:23, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
    • Example, X-Wing_Miniatures_Game#Publisher.27s_Summary. —Gethralkin^Hyperwave 22:25, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
      • I will make sure I take care of them when I'm done with the semester. It's also my first time in a dorm (in prior semesters, I commuted). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 22:27, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
        • Cool. I am in the dorm life, too. Except that I'm forty and have and wife and kid, so dorm life is probably not as exciting as you might experience. lol. In any case, I forgot to mention that the excerpt can be constructed in the form of a "block quote" using the <blockquote> Wiki markup under the Custom pagename preload box of the text editor. —Gethralkin^Hyperwave 22:54, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Vader at the Star Tours raid[]

Just wanted to thank you for pointing out that my article was left purposely vague, and not meant to suggest the Vader scene is the "correct" one. I was a little worried people wouldn't quite get that! :) --JMM (talk) 02:04, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

Pdf file[]

Instead of uploading the pdf file, you can properly cite it to via {{Blog}}. It will be better since you won't wind up with this [2]. JangFett ^(Talk) 21:53, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

• Got it. Thanks. Thought uploading it to the site directly would better preserve it in the event that Star Wars.com undergoes one of its purges again. Either way, did what you suggested. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 22:07, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
  • Well, in that case, you could always download it and keep it on your hard drive. :P I have to tweak the Blog template a little since "index.php" is appearing and it's breaking the link. JangFett ^(Talk) 22:08, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

I want your help[]

Hi. Do you know what this is? I want to make a list of G2-9T's scan luggage items. But I cannot identify it. Please help. Z-sword (talk) 16:34, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

I'll try to take it over to either someone who has visited the ride or an editor at DisneyWiki. Most likely, its from either Black Hole or that George Lucas/Michael Jackson flick. Maybe from Epcot. Its definitely not Star Wars, though. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 16:53, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

thank you. I will continue my search effort. I will make the japanese list of the luggage for jp.wikia. Z-sword (talk) 14:51, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

R2-Q2[]

Hello there Weedle. Sorry, but all the evidence was right there in the article to begin with:

• Star Wars: The Saga Collection (Pack: Astromech Droid Pack (Series 1)) (backup link) and,
• starwars.com at Comic-Con 2005 - Hasbro Previews Plans for 2005 and 2006 on StarWars.com (content now obsolete; backup link)

Please check all the sources before splitting articles. All sources combined clearly establish that the grey R2-Q2 are one and the same. The starwars.com article explicitly stated that the R2-Q2 included with The Saga Collection Pack is Biggs' droid. And from the packaging itself I've provided this quote:

"Serves Biggs Darklighter during the Battle of Yavin and may be a double agent." (emphasis added)

Toy-lines and packaging are every bit as canon as the rest of the sources as dictated by Leland Chee. As previously mentioned we simply do not know how he got from aboard the Tantive IV to Yavin or where his true allegiances lie. It is not entirely inconceivable. The colorist of the Empire and Rebellion comics just did not get the colors right. This is evidenced by your newly created R2-Q2 (Biggs Darklighter) article which states that they couldn't even keep his coloration consistent between issues of the two series: Empire and Rebellion. He is the same droid. With this I suggest merging the articles back into R2-Q2. Feel free to append the above reasoning to the talk page if necessary. Bo Shuda (talk) 10:03, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

• There's still no explicit confirmation that they are the same entity. The only thing the archived StarWars.com article stated was that R2-Q2 is the name of his droid. It never stated that it was the same one as the model that was on the Tantive IV. Heck, its partner, R4-M9, had a droid with the same name in Star Tours, yet its colorings made it obvious that it was not intended to be the same droid. As far as the Hasbro article, again, nothing really stated it was the same as the one on the Tantive IV (explicitly, I mean, and as far as I could tell, not even implied, which I'll explain shortly). Yes, the Hasbro article does mention that R2-Q2 (Biggs', I mean) may have been a double agent, but here's the thing, the exact words of the description are that it "may have been a double agent," which means it is assumed to be one in-universe, but never fully confirmed. And besides, as I mentioned earlier with R4-M9, there have been a few droids who, other than sharing the same name, were not intended to be the same droid at all. What you're engaging in is called original research, which isn't allowed. If you want them to be merged, I suggest you get sources that specifically, explicitly state that they are the same droid, not simply give the name of Biggs' droid or briefly imply the possibility of Biggs' droid being a double agent.
• And the Talk page (the one for the Tantive IV R2-Q2, I mean) IS the reason why I even split the article in the first place. The comments dated back to 2006, which by that point they already knew about the description from Hasbro (The Star Wars Archived Page was dated back in 2005, and the Hasbro toy was also released in 2006). You want to complain about it, take it to Admiral J Nebulax and Lord Oblivion, as they are the ones who said they were two different droids in those posts. All I did was heed their request. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 10:54, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
• Well going by your own logic then that would require creating a separate article for the differing coloured r2's from Empire and Rebellion. I think you've taken the comments posted 6 years ago out of proportion. The community left the page as one page for 6 years. It should have stayed that way. Also, please note that Yodapedia and numerous other starwars wiki's also still list the droid as one and the same. That's my opinion anyway. Bo Shuda (talk) 00:47, September 6, 2013 (UTC)
• Also, your argument including R4-M9 is flawed. As they are droids that have differing colours and appear in two completely unrelated media they are clearly different droids. R2-Q2 is an entirely different matter. It is a droid with the same coloration/markings in the same film with sources that imply that it is the same droid. Bo Shuda (talk) 00:56, September 6, 2013 (UTC)
  • Hey, I'm only saying what it is. I personally do not care if they are the same droid or different droids. However, we're left with little other option about it being two different droids. Though, hey, if you want, why not create a discussion on the article about whether they should be merged or not. If you feel that strongly that the should be merged, you can go ahead and start a discussion and see which way the winds blow, so to speak. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 00:59, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Star Tours[]

Yeah Sorry about that i just clicked the link on the template and it went to that page. Byzantinefire 17:31, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

SWG articles[]

I would just like to direct you to some of the guidelines I've laid out at WookieeProject Galaxies for making better articles relating to Star Wars Galaxies. Thanks! OLIOSTER ^(talk) 21:21, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

• Wanted to help. Unfortunately, I've never actually been a player of Galaxies, so I have little knowledge on it other than via the SWG Wiki. And I can't just join Galaxies now that its been shut down. Hope you have a lot of knowledge about those badges or know how to make them better, because I'm of little help with that even with the guidelines. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:28, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

ST 321[]

Please note that your recent edit to the ST 321 article has been removed. There is no canon indication that the ship was designated as you edited it to be. I understand the logic you were trying to use to establish the addition as a fact, but since this information has already been considered to be speculative in previous discussions, it has no place in the article. Thanks. —Gethralkin^Hyperwave 14:04, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Author's Cut[]

Weedle, please slow down and take a closer look at the articles you've been creating. You're making lazy mistakes such as removing infobox fields, failing to link obvious articles and add the correct categories, and including "The" in titles—all of which are basic mistakes that experienced editors shouldn't make this often. Please, take a minute to go over your work. Wookieepedia doesn't have a deadline. Cade Calrayn 00:39, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

C-3PO called "CV-3PO"[]

Hi Weedle. In C-3PO article, you added that he claimed that his full designation was CV-3PO, with the "V" allegedly standing for "Versatility". I'm curious, what is the context of that statement?--Richterbelmont10 ^{(come in R2!)} 22:21, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

• Not that it matters, since Chee stated the line wasn't meant to be taken seriously (which resulted in me undoing my edit), but: In the novelization for A New Hope, when Owen Lars complained that he did not want a Protocol Droid, C-3PO quipped "No, sir—versatility is my middle name. See Vee Threepio—Vee for versatility—at your service." Weedle McHairybug (talk) 22:27, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

A piece of advice[]

Hello, Weedle. A word of advice for you. When a Featured, Good or Comprehensive article needs an update, it's generally understood that the original author of the article, who maintains the article that they wrote, will update the article accordingly. I know you are very eager to update major articles, and the community appreciates your efforts, but I know I can speak for others as well when I say that it's considered to be something of an intrusion when you jump the gun and try to update certain articles before the original author has a chance to. There's nothing actually preventing you from doing so, but it's just one of those unwritten rules of community protocol. My suggestion to you is to take note of which status articles are currently being maintained (in other words, which original authors of which articles are still around) and which status articles are not being maintained. For status articles whose original authors are no longer editing and are no longer being maintained, those would be better for you to take a more proactive approach toward updating. Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:00, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

• Okay. Just for future reference, who was the original article for the Executor article? I want to make sure I run by the discovery with him/her so (s)he can update the article as necessary. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 22:50, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
• Sorry, I meant "original author." Weedle McHairybug (talk) 22:57, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • I am. :P You can see who wrote each article by going to the talk page and examining the "Article milestones" links to see who originally nominated the article for status. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:00, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
    • Oh. In that case, when will you add in the update from the "Star Wars Mysteries: Exacting Executor's Measurements" blog by Pablo Hidalgo? We need to mention it somewhere. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 23:02, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
      • Well, I'm not entirely sure there needs to be an update from that blog posting. It seems like he's just repeating information that is already mostly covered in the BTS, and it seems like he's just sort of idly opining instead of providing any real substantive information. But I'll read through it and take a closer look. I probably won't start doing that until I finish the Dark Horse comics update. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:09, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

RE: What is the relevant TCW episode?[]

I think the episode is Holocron Heist, but I can't be sure. Either way, that would be the more suitable place for such things... it's potentially borderline OR but I'm no expert on such matters. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 14:16, October 26, 2013 (UTC)

== wIKI ==

Do you like Star Wars and RP? http://starwars-rp-fanon.wikia.com/wiki/Creating_your_Char

First off, try to keep the header tags on the same line. Second of all, while I am just barely a fan of Star Wars (since Lucas pulled some punches I disagreed with, such as having the Rebel Alliance effectively being communist and supporting the Vietcong), this is the first time I've even heard of RP. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 12:04, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

PSA[]

Weddle, are you sure that the smoking PSA is indeed canon? Commercials generally are OOU and are nothing but promotion. JangFett ^(Talk) 14:02, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

Good point. However, the PSA, canon or not, is at least official. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 19:30, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

Conservative[]

What chapter in Darth Plagueis is the term conservative used? I can't seem to find it, thank you. Trip391 (talk) 12:46, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

I don't actually have the book, so I can't answer that question (not immediately, at least). I might try to purchase the book in the future to look for it, though and get back to you on that, but only if I have time (as I have college to worry about). In the meantime, I can direct you to the user R5, since he does have the book and thus would know (heck, he was responsible for the large amount of edits relating to Palpatine's backstory, including, I think, mentioning that Palpatine's father and Vidar Kim had conservative outlooks, and from the way it was written, indicated the political ideology in both Book of Sith and Darth Plagueis). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 12:51, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

• I have the book and I'll check it. I honestly think someone is misinterpreting the text. JangFett ^(Talk) 12:52, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
  • I have the online edition, and doing a quick scan of it, the word "conservative" wasn't found. Are you sure it was Plagueis? JangFett ^(Talk) 12:54, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

• I do have the book myself, but like Jang I can't seem to find "conservative", or any variation thereof. Trip391 (talk) 12:56, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

• Fanon and speculation is most likely what we're dealing with. I remember a lot of disputes regarding (not R5 fully) people guessing what the text was trying to say. It needs to explicitly state that they were conservative; we should not guess that they were conservative. JangFett ^(Talk) 12:59, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

• Actually, I may be the one to blame for that, since my creation of Trech Molock obviously inspired Weedle here. In the new Insider article, Tagge was indeed described as "conservative," but that was just on matters of military doctrine. --LelalMekha (talk) 13:03, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks Lelal, and if you're sure it's political, I'll undelete the article, but the Plagueis information needs to go for now. JangFett ^(Talk) 13:06, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

• Okay. In the meantime, I'll try to hunt down the edit (it was definitely within Palpatine's article. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 13:17, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

• He has a history of adding speculation into articles. While we can check again, it's pretty clear that it might be his point of view. JangFett ^(Talk) 18:11, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

• If Palpatine hated his father and tried to undermine his conservative political agenda, does that make him liberal? Reading into it gives the impression that Palpatine is some kind of big government internationalist, which I guess fits into the Empire, but isn't this book written by James Luceno, who took the opportunity to take a swipe at W. in Labyrinth of Evil?

Ah, thinking about all this too much hurts the brain.Mactionjackson (talk) 03:05, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Gay marriage in the GFFA[]

I'll answer here since article talk pages are not for discussing a topic, but rather a change to a topic. Gay marriages certainly can occur in Star Wars as is the case with Goran Beviin and his husband Medrit Vasur. Trip391 (talk) 16:34, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

Praetor II in AOR Beta[]

Hi! The info is found in at least one of the update pdf files on the minisite. I had to scroll down a bit on each pdf file, to page 2 on update #1, page 3 on update #2 and page 6 on update #3. There's a ship list with changes to game rules, including for the Praetor II and the Vigil-class corvette, on each of FFG's update pdfs. Thrackerzod (talk) 09:28, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Phrase[]

Since you appear to be more familiar with The Star Wars, could you check to see if the spelling here is correct. Thanks, Weedle. JangFett ^(Talk) 14:20, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

If it is in the previews for any of the comics on Dark Horse's website, sure (since that's where I get most of my information). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 14:31, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Hyperdrive Station A-226[]

Hey, Weedle! Does the book actuallt state that Vader and Tarkin were in the Overbridge when they monitored the DS's hyperdrive? Asking that because both Windham's Roqoo interview and official blog post outright state that pic pertains to Hyperdrive Station A-226. Those two quotes are relevant to the matter:

1. "One of the things I found really fun, because it was such a surprise to me when I saw it, was the hyperdrive station A-226 (on page 54). It wasn’t until I saw the rough layout for the spread that I saw Chris Trevas and Chris Reiff had manipulated a photograph of Vader and Tarkin facing a viewscreen so that they were looking at a view of hyperspace as if they were traveling in the Death Star through hyperspace."
2. "A still from A New Hope was repurposed to illustrate Hyperdrive Station A-226 on the Death Star."

Could you clarify? --LelalMekha (talk) 15:14, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

It apparently did. I'll even quote it: "\/From the Overbridge, Darth Vader and Grand Moff Tarkin monitored the battle station's [Death Star's] hyperspace jump to Alderaan. Moving such a large mass through hyperspace required the coordinated effort of all hyperdrive stations." Page 54 of the Death Star Owner's Technical Manual. I guess we could add a footnote in the BTS section about the exact picture location being contradictory, though. I'll try to post the question on the blog, though. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 15:18, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Procursator in TCG[]

Hi! It doesn't have a context. Image is in the links. Thrackerzod (talk) 13:15, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I guess it might have been undergoing repairs or something based on what the name of the card was. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 15:23, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Ark[]

Hey Weedle, I was going through and removing old speculation from the Ark of the Covenant article, and I saw this. Does the source say anything about the TCW ark being the same as the 5 ABY ark? JangFett ^(Talk) 01:50, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

• If I may chime in, the source material says this: "For the Kadann imposter, the glove was only another trophy in an already impressive collection—largely amassed by Lord Cronal and Rajah Ubooki’s many junk dealer brothers—that included a set of blood-red Mandalorian armor seized in the Imperial enslavement of Mandalore and the Ryloth Ark, once in the possession of Emir Wat Tambor (though, whether this chest was in truth one of several known replicas was uncertain)." --LelalMekha (talk) 01:52, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
  • What Lelal said. Wouldn't have added it in if the source never stated it at all, so no, its not speculation, as even the blog notes its uncertain whether it was the real deal or a copy. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 01:54, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

I662 edits[]

Hello Weedle, I've reverted the edits to WED-15-I662, as, if what you gave me is all the info presented, it doesn't seem confirmed that the stolen droids came from the sandcrawler from ANH, as opposed to any other Jawas living on that planet. Even if they were from the sandcrawler, I wonder if the Jawas could have had more droids than what was shown onscreen in ANH, or even if they'd just purchased some more in between the sale and the destruction of the sandcrawler. But as is, the fact that the droids were "property stolen from Jawas on Tatooine" doesn't seem to make them necessarily from that particular sandcrawler. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 17:21, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

Okay. Odd, the reference to them being stolen from a Jawa Sandcrawler by Rebel operatives implied that they were from that Sandcrawler. Though, I see your point. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 17:30, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

Conjecture[]

Weedle, as a long-term editor such as you should know by now, you must tag battle articles with {{Conjecture}} if they are not directly named in the source. Almost all of the Waymancy battles you just made are completely conjectural. Please slow down and take more time in your article creation so that you don't make these mistakes. Cade Calrayn 01:19, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

• {{Conjecture}} means that the title is conjectural. Don't bold it in the intro. Cade Calrayn 01:29, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Editing status articles[]

Please refrain from adding information to articles, especially status articles, without sourcing it, as you did here. Over time these edits require us to have to go through and perform maintenance on these articles that should never have to happen. Not to mention the information you added was pointless and almost certainly not worth noting in an article of ours, and you didn't even say the track's name correctly. Be more careful and mindful when adding information to a status article next time. Thank you. MasterFred^(Whatever) 14:35, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Cronal[]

Hey, since you know a lot in Imperial Warlords, why don't you go update the Cronal article? We'd all like to hear the details of his survival and final death. Lord KOT (talk) 02:34, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Reconquest of the Rim[]

Wheedle, in writing up the Reconquest of the Rim, you have repeatedly copied from other articles and pasted that same information into the RotR article. This is unacceptable. If you are going to continue to work on that article, please take the time to actually write up the content, and not just copy and paste parts of other articles to save time. Thank you, 501st dogma^(talk) 21:28, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

Fine, I won't copy stuff from other articles, but at least explain to me how to write it? I tried doing it without copy/pasting from other articles, back when I first created the article, but my additions got deleted anyways because it apparently was "plagiarism." Exactly how do I write an article based on something from a book, and jot down all the details of the section given in said book, without it being slapped as plagiarism? There doesn't seem to be any other way to write it without jotting down everything as stated in the book as far as I can tell. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:51, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

Read the given passage that has new info for an article, and look for the important points and other relevant info. Then, in your own words, put those points into the article. It gets easy to do this after a while, but you should get the hang fairly quickly. 501st dogma^(talk) 21:55, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

Hate to break it to you, but that advice you gave doesn't help me in the slightest, as I'm the type who thinks literally anything inside a source is relevant and important points. Probably the only way I can view it as unimportant is if it wasn't even mentioned in the source, or to quote the Archivist in Attack of the Clones, "If it isn't in the Archives, it doesn't exist." Weedle McHairybug (talk) 14:38, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

Well, if my way doesn't work for you, then find a way that does. Otherwise, your additions will continue to be deleted. 501st dogma^(talk) 20:13, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

Spoilers[]

Just a quick reminder to you to try and avoid leaving spoilers in edit summaries. Not everyone has seen the TCW episodes yet. Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:14, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Alright. Not that it would have mattered, as the article itself already spoiled the episode just by posting a plot summary. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 00:17, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

That's not the point. Every edit and edit summary shows up in the Recent changes log, so even if people don't open up that article, they still see what you're posting in your edit summaries. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:19, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Imperial Army page[]

To be honest, Weedle, I am currently not interested in the main Imperial Army page. I'm working through all elements of the Imperial Sourcebook and not looking to do major overhaul work on large pages like that as I am more concerned about filling in the blanks on articles we do not currently have. For the record, however, I do not agree with the simple removing of a large body of text and replacing it with a table (I am aware that this was not done by you, but by Valkyriez). While the amount of information could have been reduced to account for the dedicated pages being created, the addition of a table in place of prose is akin to creating a list which is a discouraged practice. While it is good that you sought some type of mediation on the issue rather than descending into an edit war, the issue should really have been brought to the talk page first for a discussion between yourself, Valkyriez and Cade (and other interested parties) on how to proceed and find an amicable solution. After reviewing the situation, my suggestion would be to reinstate some of the text, with individual tables at the formation level (squad/platoon/etc) detailing the different types of specializations found within the formation level. Hopefully, that will strike the right balance that will be amenable to all editors, but I do encourage you to discuss this matter on the talk page with the other parties to ensure that the article does not suffer. Cheers, Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 09:39, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Star Tours SH thread[]

Hey Weedle. Given your interest in Star Tours, I recommend you check and perhaps chime in this SH discussion: Forum:SH:Using Star Tours 2011 reopening material. Cheers. Stake black ^msg 16:13, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Card Game articles[]

Weedle, please do not leave empty sections in articles. As you're quite clearly copying from the other articles on the Card Game expansions, simply remove the sections that don't have content—the gallery, appearances, card list, etc. And please properly format the publisher summary as the original source does. Thank you. Cade Calrayn 18:36, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

• Weedle, why are you leaving the parenthetical in the passport links you're adding? What purpose does that serve? That is not how sources are listed in either Appearances/Sources lists nor in references. Cade Calrayn 01:35, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

Attribution warning[]

Thank you for contributing to Wookieepedia! Please note that at least one of your recent additions added unverified information to a mainspace article. Additions to Wookieepedia's articles must be verifiable by a reliable source per our sourcing policy, and unverified information may be reverted or deleted. Continuing to add unverified information may lead to you being blocked from editing by an administrator. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:08, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

• Just so we're clear, when you mentioned "reliable source", do you mean footnotes or listing the source in the Sources section? I want to make sure because I was certain I did the latter. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 04:27, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
  • You should properly cite every addition you add to an article. Sourcing instructions can be found here: Wookieepedia:Sourcing. This edit is an example of what you're doing wrong. You're adding in a bunch of new information without citing where it comes from. Worse, you're actually changing information that is already referenced to a source (in this case, Galaxy Guide 3) without updating the reference, which just becomes doubly misleading to the reader. That's almost tantamount to adding in false information. Frankly, I wouldn't have even warned you if not for that, specifically. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:34, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
    • Okay. I'll make sure I rectify this tomorrow. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 04:36, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Imperial Naval Code[]

Off the top of my head, I can't think of any appearances. However, if it was a redlink, you might have luck tracking down which articles are linked to it through the "What Links Here" button on the article page and seeing if any are appearances or sources, or seeing if the redlinks are reffed on any pages. - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 00:07, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

unlicensed...[]

Just because you dont like that they are labeled infinities... doesnt make them not infinities. And the Manga are officially licensed material from lucasfilm... I dont know where you got the impression they were unlicensed dude.... but no amount of non-canonness can ever make something unlicensed. ralok (talk) 18:13, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

First of all, I didn't say I didn't like that they were labeled infinities, I said I didn't like having to change them from infinities to unlicensed. Second of all, I changed it to unlicensed because before the switch to Disney, the unlicensed tags were originally known as "ambiguously canon," meaning no clear cut indication of whether they were canon or not, hence why I was using "Unlicensed" tags. And third of all, if the Essential Atlas, Barely Intolerable: Alien Henchmen of the Empire Part 2, and Imperial Warlords: Despoilers of an Empire Part 2 didn't directly reference elements from that manga (Shumari, Vader fighting a Tusken Raider in the ending of that manga, and Tao and his status as Vader's [second] secret apprentice, respectively), I wouldn't even have to worry about changing it from non-canon to unlicensed (especially when it was originally known as "ambiguously canon"), so really, it was LucasFilm and StarWars.com's fault for basically making references to what was supposed to be a non-canon manga to three Legends-canonical works. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 18:20, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

no, I am pretty sure an unlicensed tag... would mean that something is unlicensed. Unlicensed should never be applied to something that is officially licensed. Something that is unlicensed would be far less canon than any infinities labeled product would ever be. And while there may be references to it, that still cannot be taken to mean definitive canonicity. ralok (talk) 18:27, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

You're not getting it. They were originally tags for ambiguously canon and started with {{Tl|Ambigstart}} and {{Tl|Ambigend}}, but then thanks largely due to Disney and their making the whole EU into the Legends continuity for some stupid reason, the robots on this wiki changed it to unlicensed. I'm irritated and confused about this just as much as you are. And honestly, non-canon means non-canon, meaning they cannot ever be referenced in a canonical work, period, especially not as an event that had indeed happened (which is the case with both Barely Tolerable and Imperial Warlords. The Essential Atlas could at least get away with that due to not specifically referencing the manga, and even Barely Tolerable was at least kept ambiguous by mentioning Vader and Koar's fight as simply being a rumor, but when Imperial Warlords not only mentioned Tao, a major character in that manga, but also specifically mentioned him to be one of Vader's apprentices in a way that made no question to what it was referring to, we can't deny it being at least ambiguously canon). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 18:32, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

And you don't get it, they obviously changed the content of the tags to refer to something else... deal with it dude, you cant undo what has been done or change what something means. Also complaining about the EU being turned into legends is pretty... well worthless... nothing can be done about it here, and nothing can be done about it anywhere... just... you just kinda gotta get over it man and move on.Also... I am not irritated or confused, I knwo exactly what is going on and nothing is confusing here. You are the one who is completely failing to understand what the term "unlicensed" means. Unlicensed means something is far less canon than infinities is, frankly you have it backwards... infinities would be a step up from unlicensed. You cant have it both ways, either its canon and integrated into the article, or non-canon... which is what the comic is labeled as. ralok (talk) 18:36, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

I understand what the term "unlicensed" means (it means, as you said, works that weren't actually written with involvement from the guys who have a license to said works), and for the record, I'm not happy about their having to change the ambiguously canon tags to unlicensed tags anymore than you are unhappy with me using the unlicensed terms, especially when the end result was that they changed it to a label that doesn't even fit several of the stuff the ambiguously canon tags were supposed to fit under (for example, Perfect Evil, which became ambiguously canon the moment Imperial Warlords had to mention Tao in there, combined with the Essential Atlas and Barely Tolerable's references to that manga as well.). Would it have killed the mods to at least create a completely new template from scratch for a specific portion of works that were unlicensed rather than rename a tag into something completely different especially when said action makes it ineligible for most of the categories the original tag was meant for? I actually did intend to use Ambigstart and Ambigend tags for the sections in question, and was about to type them up, but then they didn't come up at all, then I checked the Anakin Skywalker article to see what was going on, and noticed they changed the tags to unlicensed. I wasn't happy, especially when it doesn't even match up anyways, but I can't do much about it, so in the end I was forced to use the unlicensed tags thanks to the mods stupidity in regards to changing what wasn't even that bad of a descriptor to something that was. Like I said, take it to the mods if you have complaints. I at least did, to Calrayn, which you should know since you responded to my post addressed to him. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 18:48, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Warning[]

User warning: Three-Revert Rule. You have come close to violating, or have already violated, the Three-Revert Rule. If you continue to edit-war, an administrator will block you from editing. Please reconsider your approach, and pay attention to the advice others provide. Cade Calrayn 18:29, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

I don't care what the situation is, the Unlicensed templates are not "upgrades" from the Noncanon template. Unlicensed means that a product was released without being licensed by Lucasfilm; it's not a level of canonicity. Yes, Tao has been referenced in an in-continuity source; so has the Tusken and so has Shumari. However, the Alien Henchmen post explicitly leaves it open-ended as to whether the events of the manga actually happened, and to say that the events actually happened would be an assumption beyond what has been stated. Continuing to edit-war on this topic will likely result in blocks. Cade Calrayn 18:29, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Recent edits[]

Weedle, this isn't the first time you've been warned about this. As an editor who's been around a while, you have no excuse for making the basic and frequent mistakes that you've been leaving in your articles. Take this for example. You left out the Eras template, which is a required part of every article, and Category:Imperial officers is unnecessary because Category:Stormtrooper officers is a subcategory of that. This edit is similarly unacceptable. If you're not finished with an article, don't hit save. As is obvious from the infobox, you copied this article from the original garrison one and rewrote it, and you left out the sources, categories, and references. There's really no excuse for this kind of continued errors. Cade Calrayn 15:36, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

Stormtroopers in Imperial Sourcebook[]

Hi Weedle. Unfortunately, the Imperial Sourcebook does not go into detail on the unit breakdowns of the Stormtrooper corps. If they had, the information would have been added when I ran through the entirety of the appearances in the book. - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 01:00, February 15, 2015 (UTC)

Warning[]

Firstly, please don't try to blame the tab system for your own errors. Secondly, copy-pasting an article is never acceptable; if you can't move something without an admin, then ask an admin. Thirdly, after discussion in IRC, your "line armor regiment" is nonsense—nowhere is that mentioned in the Handbook, and it's mentioned once in the ISB as another name for an armor regiment. I'm not quite sure what you were hoping to accomplish with this whole matter, but I'd strongly suggest you slow down and take a closer look at what you're doing when you're editing. Cade Calrayn 16:04, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

First of all, I'm not blaming it for my own errors. When an article is moved, before the tab system was in effect, you actually could access the old article via a redirect. Now, you need to do a lot of unnecessary work just to get back to an old edit of that article before the article was moved. I know this from experience when I tried to access the Duel on Death Star II after it was redirected and after the whole Legends/Canon mess. So if anything, the ones to blame for the mess are you and the other guys who actually made the tabs system in the first place for not using proper forethought in any consequences for this.

Second of all, I actually added in "line" to "armor regiment", so it's not an actual copy paste, a true copy paste requires absolutely no modifications whatsoever, and adding words IS modifying it, regardless of how minor it is. I operate by exact words.

That being said, I will make sure to do the advice you mentioned next time. And sorry for the disruption, but it was mentioned under Regiment as a whole section, so I figured might as well create an article since it's already got a section. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 16:27, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

• Weedle, please don't try and say that you didn't copy-paste. Adding a few words doesn't change that fact. Rather than actually checking the source, you simply copied another article, added a few words, and pasted it in place believing it to be valid. That's unacceptable. And stop blaming others for your errors; the tab system has nothing to do with this at all, and I've no idea what you're talking about with redirects and histories. The tabs have nothing to do with it—edit histories are preserved until the article's deleted, whether by standard deletion or moving an article over the redirect. The edit history for the Death Star duels' perfectly fine. Cade Calrayn 16:33, February 18, 2015 (UTC)
  • Again, I'm not blaming them for my errors. In fact, I freely acknowledge that I made a mistake (why do you THINK I apologized?), but that doesn't change the fact that accessing the redirect page is no longer a viable option. If it was, I would have done it by clicking the link, finding the redirect message, and clicking on that, since that's the ONLY way one can actually do so barring going through an edit history. Had I been you, I'd fully acknowledge responsibility for that, AND I'd even make absolute certain I fix the entire thing to make SURE it gets fixed, and that bit was indeed a mistake.
  • And again, I go by exact, literal words, that's why if I were a mod, if I notice even .001% difference, I wouldn't report the guy or give a warning, precisely because it doesn't match up exactly 100%. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 16:54, February 18, 2015 (UTC)
    • That kind of wikilawyering crap will lead to a block, so drop it. As for the redirect situation, Brandon has clarified what you're actually talking about. If you wanted someone to fix it, you should have asked us, rather than blaming us for the error and failing to actually describe what the issue was clearly. Cade Calrayn 17:35, February 18, 2015 (UTC)
      • Okay, then. Can you please fix the redirect block that the tabs are doing. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 17:45, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Comic strips[]

Hey Weedle McHairybug. I'll check those comics you mentioned as soon as I can. --LelalMekha (talk) 11:21, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

• Sooo... Here's what I wrote about Palpatine's brief interventions in Showdown and The Final Trap:

Palpatine received a hologrammic communication from Darth Vader, who had just departed Ord Mantell after meeting there with Boba Fett. Vader informed his master that the Imperial starfleet had just started to search for the new Rebel base. During the conversation, Palpatine suspected that Vader had made other arrangements, and the armored Sith Lord admitted to have sicced Boba Fett and other bounty hunters on Han Solo, in hopes that they may also find Luke Skywalker. The Emperor was pleased with Vader's decisions, and encouraged him in his quest for Skywalker, telling him that "sometimes, the remote path leads to the goal first."(Showdown) Shorly thereafter, the Emperor recontacted Vader, asking him whether his deal with the bounty hunters had borne fruit. His apprentice told him that he had changed his plans, and now intended to capture Luke Skywalker on Verdanth, using a seemingly crashed Rebel shuttle as bait. That scheme was thwarted when Skywalker was rescued by R2-D2 and Han Solo. (The Final Trap)

I didn't add it to the article itself directly, because I'm not sure about the time placement. The article for Classic Star Wars 20 places those events in 3 ABY, but no source is provided to back this up. However, our Timeline of Legends media places thoses events in 0 ABY, and no source is given either... --LelalMekha (talk) 13:34, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

We definitely know that, at the very least, it was after the Evacuation of Yavin, considering Vader is trying to locate the new Rebel base on Hoth (and probably after 0.5 ABY, based on the Ison Corridor Ambush occurring at that time, and the Rebels already being entrenched on Hoth by that point). And based on what Vader said, it may have been the beginning stages of the first search. I'll probably find a proper place for it. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 14:13, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

RE:TIE/AG Aggressor in Stay on Target.[]

Hi Weedle, I'll have a look at the aggressor article next time I have my copy of stay on target to hand. I hadn't really thought about the X-Wing miniatures in a while since I've been concentrating on the new canon stuff, but I can have a look at the remaining sets sometime soon if you'd like me too. Most the information including pictures of all the cards is available on the X-wing wiki as far as I know if you'd like to do any yourself. Ayrehead02 (talk) 16:45, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Ground warfare[]

Hello! I notice you've been adding to the ground warfare page with information from the Imperial Handbook. I don't yet have the book myself, so unfortunately everything I've been able to add to the "Galactic Civil War" section is a little Rebel biased. Would you be able to fill it out from the other perspective with some Imperial Handbook content, for example, Imperial Army doctrine and so forth?--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 09:40, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Sure, I'll add in some stuff from the Imperial Army and possibly Stormtrooper chapters. Best to make things a bit even handed anyways, especially when it's supposed to cover ground warfare as a whole rather than a specific side that utilized it.

Besides, right now I'm not sure of either group thanks to some things George Lucas said about who he based the Ewoks on (specifically, the Vietcong) that touched a very raw nerve since I know exactly what the Communists and similar groups tried to do to us Christians during the 20th Century (and yes, the Vietcong actually WERE Communists, not merely nationalists as their PR would indicate).

Oh, and as a side note, I was actually a bit irritated with Leia's comment regarding Imperial propaganda (specifically the claim that "any government that won't tolerate any criticism is feeble, no matter how many battles it won") largely because I know from history and even what's currently going on today where trying to tolerate criticism to such an extent that you capitulate to a mob actually is even worse than being intolerant of criticism. Like for example, the French Revolution: King Louis XVI actually tolerated criticism, including the kind where people spread slander and untrue rumors about him and his family, and that ultimately resulted in he and his family being massacred, to say little about many Christians being slaughtered as well thanks to the Philosophes' teachings. That's actually an instance where freedom of speech was not good at all. It's even happened in contemporary history, such as the events of the 1960s with the Free Speech Movement at Burbank orchestrated by Communists where the staff after several protests capitulated to the mob and let them have unrestrained freedom in speaking their political views, or how Jean-Paul Sartre despite his hand in the riots of May 1968 and being guilty for causing some riots ended up pardoned by Charles de Gaulle because "one does not arrest Voltaire" [which is false since Voltaire had actually been arrested and placed in the Bastille at least once, and in fact his pen-name Voltaire was actually created while he was imprisoned, but I digress...], or even the mess in Charleston where the governor capitulated to a mob with removing a Confederate Flag from a Civil War memorial, despite the fact that South Carolina wasn't even part of the Union Army and a Confederate Flag was actually historically accurate for a memorial, all because of a shooting that if anything was indirectly orchestrated by the mass media by pushing racism as a motive for every instance where a white kills a black even when the white was actually killing in self defense since the incident with Trayvon Martin. Heck, the media itself is currently pushing lies and has done so since at the very least the 1960s, and possibly even as early as the French Revolution.

Sorry for the tirade. As you can see, this whole situation is a mess and a really sensitive topic for me, so seeing Leia complain about Imperial control over news being a sign that it was feeble gets my blood boiling after reading up on several instances of governments actually capitulating to mobs even when it's obviously not in their best interest just because they tolerate criticism and even dying because of it and getting Christians killed. PS, since you're back to editing frequently, you might want to take down that tag on your user page. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 14:23, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Some nice stuff you've added there: a discussion on Imperial strategies versus Rebel strategies has the potential to be a good Star Wars-couched discussion of the "mass versus maneuver" argument.

Also, it's your talk page, but as a general rule I keep my politics off my wikis.--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 15:15, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, and I'm just getting started. You could mention the various conflicts from the Reconquest of the Rim, though, those have ground battles from a decidedly pro-Imperial perspective, and I know you at least have the Essential Guide to Warfare.

I see your point, but it isn't really politics that motivates me to say this (even if I had been a hard-core liberal rather than conservative, I still would have said all of this, since it has to do with morality more than political leanings. If anything, it would be more accurate to mention that my motives are religious based than politics-based). Still, I agree. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 15:19, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Potentially something related to the Reconquest of the Rim could be included. The problem is, while Warfare goes into great detail telling us how awesome Romodi is as a commander, we don't actually get many descriptions of what actually happened in his ground battles. In contrast, Madine's Rules of War and the Battle of Tiems are absolutely superb sources for how the Rebels thought strategically. Until I get the Handbook I'm not sure what comparable battle we have for the Imperials that really illustrates their doctrine. The Hell's Hammers at Turak IV, maybe?--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 15:27, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Imperial Starfighter Corps[]

Is there an Imperial Starfighter Corps? I always got the impression from Warfare that the Empire's starfighters were entirely under the control of the Navy and the Empire did not maintain a Starfighter Corps as a separate arm. What does the Handbook say about it?--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 16:59, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Actually, that bit wasn't from the Imperial Handbook. That was from Part 10 of the Author's Cut of the Essential Guide to Warfare. The Starfighter Corps was alluded to twice in the first section dealing with TIE pilot philosophy, once regarding the increase of non-clone human recruits, and lastly when talking about the lethality of the training process in flight schools. You can read it here: http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-the-essential-guide-to-warfare-authors-cut-part-10-the-rise-of-the-empire Sorry if I somehow implied it was a separate branch of the Imperial Military, because that wasn't my intention at all. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 17:04, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

I know the passage. I'm sure it's easy to reconcile, though I'll withhold on editing until I get Handbook myself.--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 17:06, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

In that case, it doesn't actually mention the Starfighter Corps, not even under the limited sections of the TIE pilots near the beginning of the Navy portion of the book. The Death Star Owner's Technical Manual does allude to an Imperial pilot corp regarding the Imperial gunners, though, which is presumably the same organization as the Starfighter Corps. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 17:08, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, well I suppose its better to mention it somewhere as a component of the Navy's Flight Branch, rather than keeping the rather nebulous position the TIE pilots seem to hold within the Navy we have right now.--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 17:11, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Article expansions[]

Eventually. First though I intend to pick the Atlas clean.--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 23:32, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Screed Ebay citations[]

Hi Weedle - just a heads up about your addition to Screed. Firstly, {{WebCite}} should be used for all external website links when referencing. Also, eBay is by no means permanent; concluded listings are removed after a certain period of time so at some point, the references will disappear. Once that occurs, they will no be viable references for the article. - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 16:12, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

• Okay. Do you have any ideas on how to source it besides eBay when I have to put the images up? Like you said, there won't be any viable references for the article once the eBay sites disappear. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 16:33, November 2, 2015 (UTC)
  • One thing to look into is whether or not eBay allows itself to be archived by the Internet Archive. If so, it might be a simple matter of adjusting citation urls. Of course the easiest thing to do is either upload images to the Wook for citational purposes, or host them off site and link to them. However, I'm not sure on the legality of images from eBay; surely they are in the public domain, but might fall under some type of copyright. You could also message the seller and request permission to use the image. - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 00:51, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
    • Thanks. I think I'm okay now, since Star Wars Scrapbooks is uploading them. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 01:14, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

A proposal for you[]

Well, as you've probably seen, the big Legends/Canon switchover is imminent, so how about we give the old EU one last hurrah on Wookieepedia? What do you say to trying to get the Galactic Civil War article featured again? For many years it was the Star Wars, and given how much material there already is on the page, I'd say with a bit of a tidy-up we'd have a good chance of restoring it to Featured Article status. I've already done a bit to clean up references (putting in Ref Names and so forth), so what do you say to giving me a hand?--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 14:44, December 3, 2015 (UTC)

I'll try, but bear in mind I get very detailed to what some might consider an unnecessary degree, so that might pose problems. In addition, I get very reluctant to cite anything from a book, because even if I do cite my sources, they may just delete it anyway due to "plagiarism," and I can't say I have very many sources to go for.

And on that note, we may need to do the other legends materials, especially those with a canon equivalent, whether it be tidying up sources or otherwise giving a huge overhaul (Galactic Emperor, Stormtrooper Corps, Imperial Army, and the like are especially noteworthy of things that need to be tidied up). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 14:54, December 3, 2015 (UTC)

I think much of the material for the Galactic Civil War is already there: I put in most of the Atlas and Warfare stuff a while ago without consequences. What I think is more important to begin with is that we tidy up the references (I put those in before I knew how to use the Ref Name template, so there's this big list of repeating page numbers at the bottom that needs to be dealt with), and finding references from within the wiki for those paragraphs that aren't cited yet.--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 15:08, December 3, 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Though I'll need a list for any references for both Warfare and Atlas-related reference groups to make sure I don't mess up regarding the naming of the references. I took care of sorting the Hand of Thrawn-related references, though. Personally, I would have preferred a full-on split between Legends and Canon materials into separate wikis, but I guess this will work. We're also going to need a massive overhaul on the Galactic Emperor, Imperial Army, and various other Legends-related stuff, with the top priority being the ones that also have a Canon counterpart, but for now, we'll focus on fixing up the Galactic Civil War so it's up to standard. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 15:54, December 3, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm doing my best to group together the Essential Guide references into discrete "blocks" of page numbers to reduce the number of Ref Name templates needed. While we're at it, do you think you could see about adding stuff from The Force Unleashed II? That would cover the Alliance's very earliest operations up to Operation Domino.--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 16:31, December 3, 2015 (UTC)

I have the Wii version of Force Unleashed II, so I'll try to do the best I can regarding that. However, I don't have the PS2, PS3, Xbox 360, Xbox, or PSP versions, so any information on the Galactic Civil War from that game that I manage to find will be extremely limited. Not to mention I doubt the Wii version has any databanks for that event, so we may be out of luck if you're looking for that. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 16:52, December 3, 2015 (UTC)

I'll try to draw up some stuff from the Rahm Kota and Juno Eclipse articles.--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 18:20, December 3, 2015 (UTC)

Warning[]

User warning: Three-Revert Rule. You have come close to violating, or have already violated, the Three-Revert Rule. If you continue to edit-war, an administrator will block you from editing. Please reconsider your approach, and pay attention to the advice others provide.

I'm well aware of the Lasan issue, and as I said it's being discussed. Cade Calrayn 20:32, December 6, 2015 (UTC)

• You're lying. I checked the Senate Hall forum, and it's definitely not even on the table. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 20:35, December 6, 2015 (UTC)
  • Well now. No, in fact I'm not lying; the Senate Hall's not the only place of discussion on this site. Cade Calrayn 20:35, December 6, 2015 (UTC)
    • Via IRC, feel free to join in. - AV-6R7^{Crew Pit} 20:36, December 6, 2015 (UTC)
      • I checked the Senate Hall, the Administrator's Notice Board, and the Consensus Track. There was not even an active discussion about the Lasan Suppression. Don't know about the IRC, though. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 20:38, December 6, 2015 (UTC)
      • Okay, now that I know it's a chat room, we should do the discussion AGAIN. No chat rooms. If we're going to hold a discussion, we must have it out in the open, and actually HAVE it on public record. Chat rooms just delete anything and not leave anything on public record, and thus is just a dirty way to settle arguments. Had it been me in your position, mods, I'd actually make sure it's in the open and on record for everyone to view. Quite frankly, with all due respect, I'm suspecting the mods are becoming corrupt. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 01:03, December 7, 2015 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for edit-warring and general disruption. Weedle, I'm sorry, but you've crossed the line. IRC is a perfectly viable and reasonable venue for discussion, as clearly indicated by the Mofference that happened just this evening. The general consensus was to treat the walker and TIE as errors, though the Lasan Suppression apparently has some basis in earlier material. All of this could've been avoided if you had simply come into IRC. When/if you return, please be more amenable and cease your habits of edit-warring. Cade Calrayn 01:17, December 7, 2015 (UTC). To contest this block, please contact the blocking administrator with the reason you believe the block is unjustified.

• Sorry, I probably was out of line there. However, I do still think that if you're going to settle something like this, it needs to actually be on written record, instead of someplace like a chat room where the administrators can conveniently forget about it later if they want to go against what they say. And yes, the IRC does qualify as that, and thus qualifies as a dirty trick. As Bluerock put it here: "Feel free to use it though. It's quicker than talk pages, though conversations aren't recorded. --Bluerock (talk) 17:31, April 4, 2013 (UTC)" If the conversations aren't recorded, how can it be a good way of settling things, especially when people can use that as an excuse to go against their promises? That's why I prefer forum posts. And for the record, they definitely couldn't have been errors, since the Canon/Legends split occurred in April, while that book was released in October, which meant that they had more than enough time to fix up any errors. Deleting words and images takes, what? Only a few minutes with a computer? Maybe if it was last minute, like barely a day before release, I'd buy the error claim, but not here. And if the Lothal bit can qualify as non-erroneous, we most certainly can claim the same with the walkers and Advanced V1. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 22:11, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

Final warning[]

That is *enough*. Bring it up again in a non-related forum, and you will be blocked for disrupting the site to prove a point. That's all I'll hear on the topic. Cade Calrayn 18:49, February 5, 2016 (UTC)

• First of all, it is related, or have you forgotten that they mentioned that there won't be any Legends continuations because of the whole Sequel Trilogy and canon/legends split. Second of all, I had to deal with mods who thought just because they were in charge back on places like SPPf and BMGf, they get to do whatever they please without consequence, so I have no reason to trust you or any other mods. But I'll stop if it gets you to stop getting at my back. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 18:55, February 5, 2016 (UTC)

Templates[]

You are aware that there's an actual citation template that was made expressly for this purpose, are you not? I've even seen you use it when you've copy-pasted the expansion pack articles I've cleaned up. Cade Calrayn 23:12, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Stormtrooper Corps rewrite[]

The layout I generally stuck to for the Imperial Military, Imperial Navy, and Starfighter Corps articles goes as:

Role

History

Organization

Headquarters - information about Stormtrooper Command should go here

Administration - anything about Corps organization not related to the Order of Battle should go here

Tactical organization - Order of Battle should go here

Personnel

Specializations - any information about the specialist Stormtroopers should go here

Training - goes without saying

Ranks

Equipment

Uniforms - armor should go here. If a specialized Stormtrooper is heavily equipment- as opposed to environment-based, you might want to discuss that here as opposed to the "Specializations" section

Weapons - as above, for weapons

Good luck!--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 07:15, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

I like your additions. I will do a little tidying and add some things from Warfare and the Imperial Handbook once I get a break from university work sometime next week.--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 14:43, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

The issue I have with re-writing the Galactic Emperor article is that while we have a lot of information on the Imperial Military, though unstructured, it's very unclear as to what the Emperor's powers actually are. In fact, the nature of an authoritarian regime is that many of his powers will be informal, based on patronage or threats or sheer force of personality rather than actual institutions (the article already states that the Emperor can commit outright corrupt and illegal acts as he wishes without consequence). Someone could probably write out the full Imperial Charter and it wouldn't help much, because the most significant of the Emperor's powers will be outside the constitution.--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 13:59, April 2, 2016 (UTC)

Joke Book[]

In your recent article, the Amazon link is invalid. Is it possible for you to replace it? AnilSerifoglu (talk) 00:34, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

• Did it. Was trying to Wookify the link with this: http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Joke-Book-CANCELLED/dp/148478877X/ref=sr_1_10?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1463612216&sr=1-10&keywords=star+wars+joke+book Weedle McHairybug (talk) 00:38, May 19, 2016 (UTC)
  • Thanks! AnilSerifoglu (talk) 00:44, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

Have Sidious ever identified as Palpatine in the early seasons of Star Wars: The Clone Wars?[]

I need an answer to the question to edit one of his pages. I ask editors from that pages but I think only people on wookieepedia knew it, since they looking for those infomations all day. Thanks.User: Nosferatuorlok (talk) 10:21, June 5, 2016 (UTC)

• Other than the movie as well as a brief viewing of the Clone Wars episode involving a clone traitor, I never actually watched the series, so I'm not exactly knowledgeable on that front. That said, they don't explicitly unveil Palpatine as being the same as Darth Sidious until The Lawless, so probably not. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 10:31, June 5, 2016 (UTC)
• In that case, is Sidious still the main villain of the Clone Wars? I need information to edit his page, but not on this wiki. Another wiki.
  • Yes, and no. Yes in the sense that he was a behind the scenes villain responsible for everything (sort of like how in From Russia With Love [the film, not the book], Ernst Stavro Blofeld had a behind the scenes direct role in the events of the plotline, while Tatiana Romanova was the direct main villain of the film). No in that he does not have the direct spotlight unlike Count Dooku, Asanji Ventress, or even Darth Maul. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 10:40, June 5, 2016 (UTC)
  • Actually, just because you don't fight face to face to the heroes did not make you not the main villain. A main villain have many appearances through the story, and manipulated many parts of it. But if a villain who didn't appeared very much, however is ranked bigger than other, that's a Bigger Bad. So what I want to ask here is did Darth Sidious (if you said Palpatine was not identified as him, so just think he's not Sidious before Season 6) have many appearances through the seasons? Include his holograms, sure. That's why people see Sauron as the main villain of his story.
    • Don't know, as, like I said, I never actually watched the series and thus don't know which just show him as Darth Sidious and which shows him as just Palpatine. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 10:49, June 5, 2016 (UTC)
  • Thanks for help. I think Sidious had a big role from Season 2, which is can see him as the main villain. But I will ask someone. Thanks.

I realized that it was not the canon article sorry about the confusion.

RE: Imperial Army re-write[]

I'd really love to join in, but right now I'm in the middle of a major move and my books are scattered across most of Scotland. I only have Warfare and Atlas with me right now, and I'd really need the Handbook to be any help. It'll be another two weeks before I can properly get back into it.--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 19:53, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough. I'll wait for as long as you need to do it. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 20:39, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

Would you be able to merge the "Recruitment and training" section with the "Personnel" section? I'd like to have a shot at doing the "Organization" section myself. Also, does your copy of the Imperial Sourcebook say anything about Army rank structure?--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 17:48, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

I'll attempt it. Not sure if the result will look good, though. As far as your other question, other than listing which unit is commanded by which rank, no, it does not say anything about Army rank structure. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 19:05, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

EDIT: Wait, never mind, I misread and thought it mentioned the Imperial Handbook. Hang on. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 00:24, July 11, 2016 (UTC)

EDIT 2: Yes, it does go into some depth as to the rank structure. Not as a separate list, though, just in addition to the units they commanded themselves. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 00:27, July 11, 2016 (UTC)

Imperial Sourcebook 2nd Edition[]

There is no collector's edition as far as I know, and neither of the links you gave me refers to a collectors edition unless you are misinterpreting the term "collectible." A hardcover 2nd Edition was printed in mid-1994, with a softcover reprinting in early-1995 but that's about it. - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 11:19, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Fair enough. BTW, one last thing, do you know what page the Emperor's Advisory Committee on Military Affairs is located on in the Second Edition of the Imperial Sourcebook? I'm thinking of expanding the article with information from the book. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 20:54, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Never mind, I found it. Chapter 6: Custom Ordnance. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:04, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Question about Galactic Maps.[]

I'm sure Star Wars: Galactic Atlas and Star Wars Galactic Maps are intended to be the same book, I can't really back up my claims though. Sorry. Brules^{Click here to chat} 20:58, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

• Hmm... considering that they've got separate release dates, let's just assume they're different books for now. Besides, Atlas doesn't even mention Rogue One, while Maps does. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:04, July 5, 2016 (UTC)
  • Fair enough. Brules^{Click here to chat} 21:05, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Imperial Army tactical organization[]

I'm probably going to do the same thing as I did for the Imperial Navy: start with the biggest formations first then work my way down, describing the different subordinate units as I go. I have a good mind to create a whole new article for the Army's order of battle as well. I found the big list that used to be on the page in the edit history, but converting all the links to Legends and dealing with grammar and image issues is going to be a nightmare. I might make a Googledoc for it before submitting it here if you want to help?--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 15:41, July 15, 2016 (UTC)

• Sure. Go on ahead with that Googledoc. I'll probably need your Google account to see it, though. And fair enough. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 16:25, July 15, 2016 (UTC)
  • How much more work do you want done on the Imperial Army page? On reflection, I will probably not be trying to re-write the a whole new page for the Army's order of battle.--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 18:54, August 4, 2016 (UTC)
    • We're probably going to need to mention, for starters, the various types of divisions under each divisions (eg, Sharpshooter Squad). We might also need to deal with the vehicles section if needs be. Not much else that I can think of, though. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 19:16, August 13, 2016 (UTC)

New Republic Defense Fleet[]

Before the individual fleet articles get moved I want to do some "headquarters" and "administrative organization" stuff for the Combined Defense Forces of the New Republic article. Do you have any New Republic era sourcebooks that could help out?--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 17:55, August 21, 2016 (UTC)

Other than maybe Essential Guide to Warfare, I do not know anything, sorry. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 17:59, August 21, 2016 (UTC)

Fancy giving me a hand with the "History" section of the article?--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 15:29, August 25, 2016 (UTC)

Theed Funeral Temple[]

I dont think it is claimed in Episode III, that Padmés Funeral was initially planned to be cremated at the Funeral Temple, according to Complete Locations thats what the Naboo dictates them (see here), but Padmés Funeral was not planned to include that.

Fair enough. Feel free to change it. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 14:16, October 11, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Super Empire Strikes Back edits.[]

On the enemies section of Cloud City there's an image of a Red Snowtrooper labeled "Darth Vader's Security Force". They're mentioned later in the book once, "On the top pathway, you'll face the elite troopers from Darth Vader's Security Force and plenty of Speeder Bikes." That's it. Brules ^Chat 20:48, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

• Okay. So, should we create an article on them, considering we did with the Speeder Bike Assault Force and also Vader's Special Force Troopers? Weedle McHairybug (talk) 20:55, November 24, 2016 (UTC)
  • I've been going through the game and the book chronologically, making articles and edits as I go. I'm not there yet right now, but feel free to make the article yourself if you want. Brules ^Chat 21:23, November 24, 2016 (UTC)
    • Okay, did a preliminary article. Once you're up to the security forces, you can take care of the remainder part of the article as well as add in the appropriate image. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:48, November 24, 2016 (UTC)
      • It looks good. Thanks for the help. Brules ^Chat 22:20, November 24, 2016 (UTC)
        • You're welcome. On that note, I might as well ask, is there any specific name for the jumping AT-ST boss on Hoth, as well as any specific details about that boss in that same book? Weedle McHairybug (talk) 22:23, November 24, 2016 (UTC)
          • No it doesn't mention anything specific about it, it's just a regular AT-ST. Brules ^Chat 22:46, November 24, 2016 (UTC)
            • In that case, I'll just make a note on the AT-ST Legends article that some models have the capability of jumping and source that game. That's pretty much all I have in regards to anything from that game. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 22:48, November 24, 2016 (UTC)
            • EDIT: Actually, there is one last thing I might as well ask: Is there a specific name for the giant probe droid boss and also what its capabilities are? This is truly the last thing I'm going to ask about that game and the guidebook, I swear. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 22:57, November 24, 2016 (UTC)
              • Nope. It's just a Probe Droid Boss. Brules ^Chat 23:01, November 24, 2016 (UTC)
                • Okay, fair enough. Like I said, that was the last thing I wanted to find out. You can continue on your leisure regarding inputting the guide materials. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 23:02, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Super trilogy = Game Boy Releases?[]

From what I can tell only Super Star Wars: Return of the Jedi got a gameboy port. The other two seem to be gameboy ports of Star Wars (1991 video game) and The Empire Strikes Back (video game) for the NES.

I'll try and get to fixing up the Super Return of The Jedi page at some point, but I still have Super ESB and the original Super Star Wars to get through, so it'll be some time before I get there. I'll make sure to keep an eye out for the blue guard though. Brules ^Chat 19:59, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

• Fair enough. I wasn't saying you should seek it right now (like you said, you still have Super ESB and the original Super Star Wars to finish regarding edits), just when you are able to do Super Return of the Jedi. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 20:01, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

US Magazine Collector's Edition[]

I found it at a Super Saver in Columbus, NE. I would just keep my eyes on magazines stands at big book stores, your local wal-mart, or Target. E-Bay was the only place i could find a title for this magazine.--CC-1990 (talk) 16:47, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Saw Gerrera[]

Hey, I don't want to start an edit war or anything so I thought I'd say it here! But Saw doesn't say anything about potentially having to kill her, he says that people were starting to figure out she was the daughter of a science officer and that they were people who wanted to use her as hostage, that's supported by the novel too. Unless I've missed anything I would say there is nothing to say the alternative to him dumping her was to kill her

Okay, fair enough, forgot that part, though we still need to note that bit in there, since it really doesn't explain why he left her in that bunker, just that he did. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 03:50, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

Okay yeah that should be explained I agree with you --Lewisr (talk) 03:51, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

Re: F-29's full designation[]

The time stamp is around 4:30; you'll need HD selected to see it. I know you've had a vested interest in Star Tours in the past, and I've been looking at some at some of your past conversations while working. - AV-6R7^{Crew Pit} 20:18, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Spinners[]

I'm not entirely sure what Spinners is supposed to be. I don't remember anything in Super Empire Strikes Back that looked like a Spinner. I think it's possible that it might have been an Orbot Droid. Brules Talk 04:40, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

Well, I asked anon user 72.60.2.210 as well as Natonstan for the information, since they named the enemy and gave the link, respectively. I suspect that the latter will respond since 72 has been inactive since 2006.

On that note, I might as well ask, how close are you to being done with your Super Empire Strikes Back workbench? After all, we're probably going to need to massively update that article soon, anyways. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 08:47, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

Oh woops. I completely forgot about this conversation. My bad. As for my workbench, I just need to finish the synopsis, "Differences" section, and the behind the scenes section. My spare time is very limited though, so it may be a while before I finish. Brules Talk 06:07, February 25, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, I can wait. Maybe Summer, you'll have free time, assuming of course it's school that's causing most of the delays and not work. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 10:40, February 25, 2017 (UTC)

It's school and work, but my work is seasonal and will probably end sometime in March. Brules Talk 19:09, February 25, 2017 (UTC)

Disciples of Harmony[]

Are you going to create an article for Disciples of Harmony? I'm just curious. --Rakhsh (talk) 20:05, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

• Just took care of it. Sorry it took so long, wasn't sure if it actually merited an article initially. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 20:23, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Re:HoloNet News template[]

Hello, Weedle. Considering I don't have a bot and there are more than 1500 pages linking to the template, I'm not going to systematically add the archival fields to them. If you're willing to take up that task (or some of it), the addition of the field is as simple as this. (Naturally, make sure the link works and all.) Cheers! Imperators II^(Talk) 09:50, May 10, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, fine by me. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 10:21, May 10, 2017 (UTC)

Hi you two, please have a look at my recent posts on Template talk:Hnn. This is quite a task to do alone (as finding the most recent working revision on Archive is quite tedious) so any help if appreciated. If you have any questions, leave a comment on the template talk page or my talk page. Cheers, 1358 ^(Talk) 21:54, May 16, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Wide-beam laser[]

It's done. I just need a few minutes to find the right image for it. Brules Talk 23:19, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

Guns for Hire Expansion Pack[]

New aces pack for Star Wars: X-Wing Miniatures Game was announced yesterday per [3]. Rakhsh (talk) 16:08, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

• Just created the article, after some difficulty. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 16:42, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

Star Wars land logo[]

Looking at some of the articles revealing that logo, I believe it is actually a logo for the "Parks and Resorts" presentation that will discuss the place. Not a logo for the land itself. --JMM (talk) 16:13, June 8, 2017 (UTC)

Okay. In that case, what would be a good place to put that logo, then? Weedle McHairybug (talk) 16:15, June 8, 2017 (UTC)

I'd say maybe in History section, with a little something about the event added? --JMM (talk) 16:37, June 8, 2017 (UTC)

Okay. Did what you suggested, including adding a little something about the event. If you wish, feel free to create an article about the event in question, maybe even insert an image of the detailed model when it comes out. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 16:52, June 8, 2017 (UTC)

Murder?![]

A Jedi and especially a Sith are never "unarmed", as both have great power at their fingertips constantly, the latter in the literal sense.--Boris Baran (talk) 20:12, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

The fact that they have no weapon on them, and are clearly at one's mercy meets the letter of the definition of "unarmed", supernatural powers or not. Don't forget, even Palpatine/Sidious strongly implied, twice, that killing even a force user while they were unarmed, whether they had powers or not, constitutes as murder and was clearly willing to even allow himself to be murdered just to ensure someone turned to the Dark Side. Besides, technically, killing Dooku still wouldn't qualify as him being unarmed despite quite literally being disarmed, due to said great power at times not even NEEDING their hands to use (like telekinesis, or Force flight), yet Anakin fully acknowledged that was not the Jedi way. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 20:43, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

Edits[]

Hey, whilst I.understand what you're saying, we aren't supposed to copy the legends page onto the xanon one, we have to write them from scratch, you can use the legends one as a guide to see what to write but just not copy --Lewisr (talk) 18:47, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Supremacy/Raddus data[]

Just so we're on the same page, I don't have access either. I saw the third Supremacy image on a recent Stuependous Wave video, I don't have the image. We could only screenshot it from there, but I'm sure Suependous only found it too, since I doupt he has the app himself, so it should be somewhere. I'll upload the 2BB-2 and BB-4 image.--ZapikCZ (talk) 08:01, September 2, 2017 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8rWpD5NTE8&t=27s No idea how to find the image anywhere else.--ZapikCZ (talk) 10:25, September 2, 2017 (UTC)
  • Hey! This video has a better image. I can't take a good screencap, so I'm asking you. You have to let the video run for about 10 seconds before the part, so the bars on top and bottom aren't visible anymore and then make a screenshot. Then just replace the current image with this one and I'll properly crop it. Also make sure that the quality of the video is set to 1080p.--ZapikCZ (talk) 17:39, September 2, 2017 (UTC)
    • Nevermind, I figured it out!--ZapikCZ (talk) 21:14, September 2, 2017 (UTC)
      • No, unfortunately. I have nothing more. Just upload them if you find any others, I'll fix the categories and such when I get home.--ZapikCZ (talk) 07:11, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

Vader's Star Destroyer - Vizier/Emperor[]

Looking closer into the Kenner Star Destroyer toy, it looks like the actual text on the toy's box mentions "Grand Vizier", which was leftover from a cut scene where Sate Pestage is the first person Vader talks to before the Emperor appears as a hologram. But it was in toy CATALOGS that they say "Grand Emperor". This article at starwars.com mentions it. I think I'll add all that info to the article: http://www.starwars.com/news/from-icy-trenches-to-ewok-campfires-kenner-playsets-part-2. And here is a link to that JC Penney Catalog: http://www.wishbookweb.com/FB/1980_JCPenney_Christmas_Catalog/#438 --JMM (talk) 14:35, September 12, 2017 (UTC)

Jedi-Bibliothek would be the best resource for issues of the Star Wars Magazin[]

Here's the link. I think there's also a companion magazine called Journal of the Whills that has other material. Anyway, a page for Star Wars - Das offizielle Magazin already exists. If you have any questions, I think @germanjedi on Twitter should be the person you should ask.--ZapikCZ (talk) 08:47, October 22, 2017 (UTC)

Oh. In that case, feel free to merge it. Only did it because someone requested that I make an article on it. I'll also make sure to tell the person that the article actually already exists. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 08:54, October 22, 2017 (UTC)

Template PAGE[]

Hello, quick question, I'm pretty new to this, how do you make a template PAGE and not a template where the type is visible. --BenBenson1 (talk) 16:22, November 18, 2017 (UTC)

To be honest, I really don't know as that's the first I've heard of it. You might want to try one of the mods. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 16:24, November 18, 2017 (UTC)

Moviespoilers[]

Hi Weedle! If you're going to create any more pages about characters or anything else from The Last Jedi, please make sure you add the moviespoiler tag at the top. Ayrehead02 (talk) 15:04, December 18, 2017 (UTC)

Trillions[]

did they actually say trillions in the movie? that's a pretty big plothole, because it's really not trillions considering established limitations of hyperspace routes

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperspace_route

boba fett literally tracks the falcon by eye without any sort of technology because there are only a limited number of stellar bodies that could possibly be safely jumped to from a specific trajectory, i'm pretty sure they even mention it in SW:rebs

I don't know whether they gave a number in the film because I've yet to actually see it (I'm probably going to go with my parents during or after Christmas), but I do know that the trillions number was indeed stated in the Incredible Cross Sections book for the film. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 23:33, December 23, 2017 (UTC)

Warning[]

This is a general warning for you regarding proper creation of articles. Per Wookieepedia:Manual of Style#Tense, all in-universe articles are to be written in past tense, which you violated here. While a single incident like this normally wouldn't be cause for citation, the fact that you have been warned for this and similar violations multiple times before and the fact that you have been editing here for almost ten years now makes this simply unacceptable. If I see this again, I will be issuing you a block from editing. Don't let it come to that. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:53, January 9, 2018 (UTC)

A reply too a message I should given a long time a go.[]

Reply the (Negastrike Platoon edits) message:

• Really?, weird!, but thanks. I didn't know that. One more thing. I have to admit that I didn't realized that you counter-edited me, neither the first or second time. Goodbye and have nice day. RC-0407 (talk)
  • May the force be with you and others.

Rushing[]

Hey Weedle, although you updating Solo-related articles is appreciated, please take more care in your edits, as many of them are unlinked and feature redundant refs. There is no immediate hurry to update these articles, so please don't just rush them, as others have to clear them up. Thank you. Tommy Macaroni 20:09, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

• Okay, fine. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 20:23, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

Publisher's summary[]

Please stop capitalizing "Publisher's Summary" in every single article you create. It's "Publisher's summary." We don't capitalize every word in section titles. How long have you been editing here now? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:08, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

• I won't remind you again. Section headers are not to be formatted in title case, per the Layout Guide. If you do this again, I will block you from editing. Consider this your final warning. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:09, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

TIE Defender combat medallion[]

Hiya Weedle. I have a question about the TIE Defender combat medallion article you created a couple years ago. It mentions that Maarek Stele "received all three versions of this medal after completing the training ops relating to the Star Wing," a phrase present since the very first version of the article. But the rest of this article says nothing about Star Wings. I note that several of these medallion articles have the same text pasted in, and I wonder if that phrase is a copy/paste error from Assault Gunboat combat medallion, which contains the exact same phrase (and it makes sense in that context). Most likely the TIE Defender combat medallion page should say "...training ops relating to the TIE/D Defender," but I'm not familiar with the game so wanted to verify with you first. Thanks! Asithol (talk) 01:47, August 24, 2018 (UTC)

Request[]

When you add publication information to an article like this, please make sure to also update the corresponding year article (in this case, 2018). Otherwise, that information is likely to not get added promptly or potentially ends up getting forgotten entirely. Thanks for your help. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:23, August 26, 2018 (UTC)

Warning: Image sourcing[]

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• And for Pete's sake, please stop uploading images with gibberish file names. Take a moment and change that to something. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:07, September 18, 2018 (UTC)
  • Hey, I tried to change the file name to something more appropriate for the wiki after that warning, even changed the file name from the default file names from here to something akin to, say, the file name for the cover art image for Han Solo - Imperial Cadet 1 here. So, in other words, there was zero reason to delete those second attempts at uploading the images, since I actually DID make sure I followed procedure instead of using the default file names from those sites. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 23:12, September 18, 2018 (UTC)
    • You have read nothing in the warning I issued you. Correcting a file name from gibberish to something sensible is not a policy issue, nor is it what I warned you for. I deleted your images and warned you because you have not sourced any of your images. Take a moment and actually read the warning. If you upload another image without a source, you're getting a block. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:17, September 18, 2018 (UTC)

Blocked[]

You have been blocked from contributing for 1 month for continuing to create articles with section headers in title case, following explicit warnings to stop. To contest this block, please contact the blocking administrator with the reason you believe the block is unjustified. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:59, November 20, 2018 (UTC)

You have been blocked from contributing for 3 months for continuing to violate site consensus with regards to this same issue. To contest this block, please contact the blocking administrator with the reason you believe the block is unjustified. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:58, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Empty sections[]

You've been warned before about creating articles with empty sections, so stop doing it already. It's unnecessary and useless. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:42, May 2, 2019 (UTC)

• If you're open to suggestions, I've got one. How about creating a pre-loadable template for articles like magazines, magazine articles, games, books, characters, etc., etc.? You know, similar to what Wikitroid or Batman Wiki does with its articles? That would solve the problem easily. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 23:12, May 2, 2019 (UTC)
  • What you're doing is the problem. The solution is either fill in the sections or don't create them at all. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:14, May 2, 2019 (UTC)
    • And my suggestion of pre-loadable templates would actually solve that issue, since I need to copy down the existing page templates of prior articles so I can create new articles, as the templates are practically required for these sorts of articles. And besides, since when has bibliographies and notes and references sections been useless? I thought the entire point of those sections is to cite sources. Better to have them on hand so you can easily edit them in, anyway. Heck, the entire point of a wiki is to edit anything in when new information comes out, so if anything, lacking the sections at all actually is unnecessary and useless. But, hey, if you prefer articles with no real way to source them thanks to the sections being missing just because they don't have an immediate use yet, be my guest, I'll try to avoid copying any sections in that won't be used (even if it really doesn't make any sense). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 23:23, May 2, 2019 (UTC)

1st appearances[]

Remember to put Template:1st in the pages that you are creating. --Rakhsh (talk) 14:32, May 31, 2019 (UTC)

Warning: Attribution[]

This is a general warning to you regarding the proper attribution and sourcing of articles. Never is it acceptable to include speculatory information in articles accompanied by a question mark, which is only serving to admit that you know the information you're adding is not verifiably accurate. Considering A) proper attribution of articles is the hallmark of our purpose here; B) you've been editing Wookieepedia for 10 years now and have absolutely no excuse for this; and C) the fact that you've been warned for attribution issues before, you have exactly zero leeway with me beyond this initial warning. You're going to need to go back to each of the articles you've created and remove these question-mark speculations. Failure to properly rectify this issue and/or continuing this practice will result in a block from editing. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:25, May 31, 2019 (UTC)

• Your non-response to this message and the fact that you've moved on to editing other things tells me you're not taking this seriously. So let me make this perfectly clear for you: I'm giving you until 0:00 UTC time Monday morning (which is tomorrow night in your time zone) to fix these articles, or I'm going to issue you a block for the policy violations previously cited to you. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:28, June 1, 2019 (UTC)
  • Got rid of those statements per your request. However, it's still honest compared to claiming that those events occurred in 3 ABY just because the game itself occurred on that date, which is the case for AZ 77 and Ardent (MC40a light cruiser) (ignoring of course that the fact that they're Historical missions means there's no guarantee that it occurred on 3 ABY). And in case you haven't noticed, there have been plenty of instances where that kind of sourcing has been used (question marks aside), some even having been done by the likes of LelalMekha (or at least, had done that), are you going to call him out for policy violations as well? I've even seen some mods use that sort of sourcing. And quite frankly, if I must be blunt, if you really don't like those kinds of edits or article creation, why don't you just create the articles to your standard? Being a mod isn't an excuse. Cavalier One is also a mod, yet even he at least creates articles wholesale, not to mention spends a LOT of time adding in appearances. At least he practices what he preaches. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:41, June 1, 2019 (UTC)
    • No, you don't get to criticize me for your horrible speculation and attribution failures. This is an objective, black-and-white, inarguable policy matter. In no circumstance ever is it acceptable to add this kind of speculation to articles. It's your responsibility to follow this policy when you create or edit articles. I'm not the one committing this mistake, and I do follow and uphold the attribution policies of this wiki. That's why I'm an administrator and member of the Inquisitorius and AgriCorps article-reviewing bodies. And now I must be blunt with you: I am absolutely out of patience with your baloney, and I will remind you that improper accusations of impropriety are a violation of our Civility policy. I severely suggest you check yourself and watch what you say and do from this point, because you're on the verge of a very long block. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:54, June 1, 2019 (UTC)
• It's not acceptable to create articles based on information you find on the Completely Unreliable Star Wars Encyclopedia or any other fan site. The only reliable sources you should be creating articles from are officially licensed publications you have actually taken the time to verify the information from yourself. Impressively, you've found a new angle from which to circumvent our attribution requirements. Since this is a first from you, I'm giving you this one and only warning. Furtherance will result in a block from editing. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:47, September 18, 2019 (UTC)
  • Just as an FYI, I did give the source for that article, and I wasn't just meaning that encyclopedia site either. I'm referring to The New Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology, which is in fact an officially licensed publication (listed as NEGW in the sourcing for that site, and I had to make sure before I created the article by tracking down what NEGW stood for by looking up any other aspects that NEGW was used as a source, and I eventually got to Nerve disruptor, which used that as a source, and then I looked at that article on here, and saw it stood for New Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology.). If you had taken just one minute and actually looked at the Sources section right below the article, you'd see it said "*The New Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology", which should have been a pretty big tip-off that I DID use licensed sources as well. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 01:53, September 18, 2019 (UTC)
    • Nothing you've said here is a defense for yourself. Of course I saw that you listed NEGWT in your attempted article creation, but you just copied it straight from CUSWE without actually checking that book yourself to see whether the information you were adding to Wookieepedia was in fact correct. So you're relying entirely on CUSWE's information to be accurate, which is where your mistake lies. CUSWE is not a reliable source of information. If you can't personally check a given source to verify its information, you shouldn't be creating articles from that source. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:02, September 18, 2019 (UTC)

External link citations[]

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• You're still missing the most critical field of the Citeweb template: archiveurl, which has been a requirement for citing external links for 3.5 years now. I expect to see you continue to apply this in your future edits. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:28, August 15, 2019 (UTC)
  • You are once again reminded that a backup link must be provided in all external link citations added to articles, per the Sourcing policy rules already linked for you above. Template:Amazon contains an "archiveurl" field and is to be utilized in all instances of this template, such as in Star Wars: How to Speak Astromech with BB-8: A Communication Manual. Please add the backup link to the Amazon citation in that article, and, as already stated, continue to apply this in your future edits. Thank you for your cooperation. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:21, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
    • I'm giving you another warning regarding your inability to properly add external link references with backup links. Your latest mishap occurred here, where you attempted but failed to correctly add the archive URL for that Amazon page to the Amazon template. Although I recognize that you made some effort to do this correctly, the fact remains that you ultimately failed to do so, which should have been evident to you by the presence of the "Pages with missing permanent archival links" category on the page. The larger problem here is that every time you or someone else fails to add a backup link correctly, pages get added to that category, which as you can see has become massive in size, with more than 11,000 articles—all of which will have to be fixed at some point, mostly by manual, rather than bot, labor. This means every time you do this incorrectly, you're unnecessarily creating work for and wasting the time of some other poor editor who has to pick up your slack. I say "unnecessary" because, as I've noted several times to you by now, adding backup links is not only a simple task, it is now policy, which you are obliged to follow in all instances. Therefore, you may consider this your final warning regarding backup links in external-link citations. The next time you do this incorrectly and don't at least seek help from another editor in formatting your referencing correctly, you will be blocked from editing. We have many, many users, including myself, who are more than willing to take a moment to show you how to do this correctly if you don't know how to. It just takes a little effort and initiative on your part. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:29, January 28, 2020 (UTC)

Galaxy's Edge timeline[]

Hey Weedle, if you look at the image it actually looks like its roughly halfway between TFA/TLJ and TROS, which makes sense because Galaxy's Edge Black Spire is 4 months after TFA, and TROS/Resistance season 2 are the only things on the 35 ABY point in that image --Lewisr (talk) 14:58, August 24, 2019 (UTC)

Tense[]

Please use the correct tense, the articles should be in past tense. --Lewisr (talk) 12:46, September 15, 2019 (UTC)

• Once again, I must remind you about using the right tense, its really not that difficult and there's really no excuse for using the wrong tense. --Lewisr (talk) 15:43, December 27, 2019 (UTC)

Link formatting[]

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Warning: Attribution[]

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It doesn't matter if your attempted addition to a Wookieepedia article "literally says the source in there." Every contribution to Wookieepedia requires proper attribution and referencing, as outlined in the Sourcing and Attribution policies. There is no such thing as "self-sourcing statements." To put this in layman's terms, every sentence you add to a Wookieepedia article from now on needs to have a reference note attached to the end of it. Considering you have been warned for this and informed of our attribution requirements multiple times now, and thus have had plenty of opportunity to digest and apply our standards and practices, not to mention you have been editing Wookieepedia for ten years now and have no excuse not to be 100% familiar with all of our policy requirements, you will not be issued another warning for this. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:38, September 23, 2019 (UTC)

Maybe you haven't noticed, but there are other articles that explicitly mention Cinefex and yet do NOT include any proper attribution of sources to Cinefex at all, at most having an attribution to a reddit post made by one of the guys who did Rogue One. I'll even supply you with a list of all instances of this:

• Tantive IV/Legends
• Executor-class Star Dreadnought/Legends
• Sensor globe
• Persecutor
• Intimidator

All five articles mentioned something being confirmed in Cinefex, all without even using attributions toward it (in fact, the closest it got to actual attribution in the Cinefex article was a quoted statement in the Tantive IV article). And since you're a mod who's exceptionally insistent on demanding attributable sources, not to mention had the job since 2007, you yourself don't have an excuse for not adding the citation needed tags for those pages either (and some of those instances have been around for quite some time). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 18:55, September 23, 2019 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for one month for repeated violations of our Sourcing and Attribution policies, as well as an unneeded antagonistic attitude that flies in the face of our Civility policy. Our Sourcing policy explicitly states that all articles must be completely sourced, including the "Behind the scenes" section for in-universe articles. "It literally says the source in there" is not a valid source and you, as a veteran editor, know this. Instead of heeding advice, you choose to adopt an antagonistic approach and accuse Toprawa of impropriety. This is unacceptable behavior. To contest this block, please contact the blocking administrator with the reason you believe the block is unjustified. 1358 ^(Talk) 19:30, September 23, 2019 (UTC)

• In the event you return from your block, I'm going to respond to your latest post for your benefit in the hopes that you understand why your editing practices are at fault. The absence of proper referencing on one article doesn't make it ok to repeat improper referencing on another article. Just because you find one or a thousand articles doing something the wrong way doesn't justify you doing something the wrong way too. All those articles mean is that they haven't been properly referenced yet. We have limited manpower on a wiki of more than 150,000 articles. Not everything is going to get done in a timely fashion. Regardless, it doesn't matter what any other article or user is doing; you are still required to follow all of Wookieepedia's site policies. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:52, September 23, 2019 (UTC)

Future Product[]

If you're going to create articles for upcoming books, please add the Future product template at the top. Thanks--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 22:49, January 28, 2020 (UTC)

Blocked[]

You have been blocked from contributing for 1 month for adding unverified information to articles. You have been warned and blocked for this so many times now, I'm not even going to say anything else. To contest this block, please contact the blocking administrator with the reason you believe the block is unjustified. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:18, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Again, do not add speculation[]

Thank you for contributing to Wookieepedia! Please note that your edit to smoke generator lamp‎‎ added unverified information to a mainspace article. Additions to Wookieepedia's articles must be verifiable by a reliable source per our sourcing policy, and unverified information may be reverted or deleted. Continuing to add unverified information may lead to you being blocked from editing by an administrator. Thank you. OOM 224 ^{༼༽talk༼༽} 21:11, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

• Per above OOM 224 ^{༼༽talk༼༽} 13:01, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Ajax and Formidable[]

Hello, I am messaging you in regards to your work on Ajax and Formidable. Thanks to NanoLuuke, I was able to determine that they are in fact not from X-Wing as you can only see 5 Star Destroyers in total in the opening, while Imperial Handbook specifies that there were 10 in the battle and only names half of them. As such, I have removed X-Wing from Appearances as assuming they appear in the cutscene is pure speculation. You've already been warned and blocked multiple times about adding such unverified claims to articles, so it's in your best interest to refrain from it completely in the future. UberSoldat93 (talk) 11:30, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Referencing[]

Please include proper referencing. Your edit here failed to do so; "<ref>''Star Wars'': Episode VI ''Return of the Jedi'' director's commentary.</ref> Fan26 (Talk) 05:36, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

• Also, the information here has nothing to do with socialism. The people's war is a military strategy; May Day parades are just parades. They have nothing to do with the concept of socialism. OOM 224 09:05, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Fine, I'll try to do proper referencing next time regarding the ROTJ commentary footnote. However, I won't say either of those concepts have nothing to do with socialism, since Mao Zedong IS a socialist (or Communist if you prefer, doesn't really matter since they're the same thing ultimately) and created that strategy specifically to ensure socialism was implemented into China, and the May Day parades were literally created or at the very least co-opted by Communists to celebrate socialism and similar causes. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 11:16, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
    • Please be careful and avoid including politicised motivations for adding information to articles, thanks. Fan26 (Talk) 12:39, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
      • Oh, believe me, if I had any politicized motivations for adding information to articles, ESPECIALLY in regards to something like that, I would have ended up blatantly whitewashing the Empire and demonizing the Rebel Alliance in those edits. I'm nowhere close to having politicized motives other than relaying what was said. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 13:15, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
        • This is yet another warning regarding unverified info. This edit added unreferenced info to a mainspace article, which you surely know by now is forbidden. Please make sure to correctly source your edits. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 01:42, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
          • Unverified? The quote in question is literally at the top of the Behind the Scenes section of that article. And besides, by the exact same logic, Cavalier One deserved multiple warnings for giving unreferenced/incorrectly sourced info for his various article creations, since all of his created articles lacks any properly-cited footnotes at all. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 02:17, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
            • It doesn't matter if the quote is there. All edits must be sourced. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 03:12, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
              • Fine (even if I find it pointless since the quote itself IS a source and wouldn't even be on there if it wasn't), but at least explain why Cavalier One created a huge amount of articles and hasn't even been reported despite literally not giving the appropriate sourcing when creating them. Like for example Scandoc. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 03:18, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
                • I don't want to speak for Cavalier One, but that article was created in 2007 by another user. It seems that all that he has done is add sources. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 03:41, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Attribution[]

Read this. I'm not fixing your future edits and will revert on sight any improperly cited changes. If you want help with sourcing then ask me or another editor, but I will not tolerate more of your lazily sourced additions. OOM 224 20:55, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Blocked[]

You have been blocked from editing for 3 months. To contest this block, please contact the blocking administrator with the reason you believe the block is unjustified. OOM 224 21:38, 15 October 2022 (UTC)