The result of the debate was Support; Four digit BBY/ABY years (1000-9999 BBY/ABY) should have their comma omitted. JangFett (Talk) 17:50, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
The following was discussed recently in IRC. Cavalier One noted that most, if not all, recent sources omit the comma in four-digit year articles. Example: 5000 BBY instead of 5,000 BBY. Some textual examples from some of the most prominent recently released sources:
- The New Essential Chronology, pg xi: "7000 BBY"
- The Essential Atlas, pg 3: "The Ruusan Reformations of 1000 BBY saw Chancellor Tarsus Valorum..."
- The Essential Reader's Companion, pg 5, in the timeline placement: "5000 BBY," "4985 BBY," 4975 BBY," etc.
- The Essential Guide to Warfare, pg 39: "In 3965 BBY the Mandalorians began prodding the Republic forces..."
- And for good measure, The Essential Guide to Warfare Author's Cut: "In the Begali Uprising of 1154 BBY..."
Note that sources do include the comma for years of five or more digits. Examples:
- New Essential Chronology, pg xi: "100,000-25,000 BBY"
- Atlas, pg 3: "Following the first of the Alsakan Conflicts after 17,000 BBY..."
- Warfare, pg 25: "The navy would become a tool of the Pius Dea theocrats after 12,000 BBY..."
However, Wookieepedia currently employs the comma for four-digit year articles. See 5000 BBY. I suggest we mirror our formatting after these official sources, which would mean omitting the comma for years 1000-9999 BBY/ABY and using the comma for everything 10,000+ BBY/ABY. Obviously, this will require some extensive article moving. Hopefully, a bot can assist.
The following statement can be added to Wookieepedia:Naming policy#Years and plain numbers: "For in-universe year articles, omit the comma for years 1000-9999 BBY/ABY (Example: 5000 BBY, not 5,000 BBY). Do include the comma for all years 10,000+ BBY/ABY." Naturally, this will also apply to our in-line article writing for uniformity. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:30, November 5, 2013 (UTC)
- One more note, as was just discussed on IRC: This only applies to the BBY/ABY dating system, not to other dating systems, such as ATC/BTC or GrS. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:41, November 5, 2013 (UTC)
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- Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:30, November 5, 2013 (UTC)
- Sound reasonings. Though let's please get a bot on this. Cade Calrayn 22:32, November 5, 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, definitely gonna need a bot for this :P Supreme Emperor (talk) 22:33, November 5, 2013 (UTC)
- Works for me. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 22:35, November 5, 2013 (UTC)
- SE: We don't need a bot. We have a Cade. 501st dogma(talk) 22:52, November 5, 2013 (UTC)
- Dogma: [00:11:17] <ecks> No, Cade, this doesn't mean 10,000 bot edits for you. 1358 (Talk) 23:13, November 5, 2013 (UTC)
- Sir Cavalier of One(Squadron channel) 23:53, November 5, 2013 (UTC)
- I thought about this...alright! Winterz (talk) 01:48, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
- —MJ— War Room 07:14, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Trip391 (talk) 07:17, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 07:32, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
- I don't know whether it's an American thing, but using commas in four-digit numbers always bothered me. --LelalMekha (talk) 16:19, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Ok JangFett (Talk) 16:34, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Sounds good. And per ecks.—Cal Jedi (Personal Comm Channel) 17:52, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
- NaruHina Talk 23:48, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Sure. Corellian PremierThe Force will be with you always 01:06, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
- It's either commas or half-spaces, and commas are more common in American written English (outside of science textbooks at least.) —Silly Dan (talk) 03:26, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
- MasterFred(Whatever) 04:47, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
- I've always found "5,000 BBY" and the like to be counter-intuitive, for the reasons Cade mentions below. I think Del Rey is right to abolish that practice and use something more akin to real-world practices. (And we would be, too!) ~Savage 13:39, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
- Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:46, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
- Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 19:13, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
- Manoof (talk) 02:08, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
- Green Tentacle (Talk) 13:31, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
- CC7567 (talk) 04:10, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
- What's that I hear? Sounds like a band, only moving, like ... it's on a wagon. Hmm. I shall have to climb aboard. jSarek (talk) 06:09, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
- Per Cade's comment below. Fe Nite (talk) 14:39, November 11, 2013 (UTC)