The result of the debate was Support all. DarthRuiz30 (talk) 22:17, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Hello, all, on another exciting installment of the Finalizing the list of Canon and Legends media in WP:CANON series of community votes (previous votes: 1, 2) which aims to ensure that the Canon policy's lists of which Star Wars media Wookieepedia treats as Canon ("What is considered official canon?") and which as Legends ("Reliable resources") are comprehensively updated for all the various possible continuity situations. This time, we'll look at four cases pertaining to Legends source material that was released post-April 25, 2014.
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Post-2014 SW.com stuff[]
Firstly, I propose that we update the wording of "Reliable resources" regarding SW.com content (proposed addition bolded):
- "All StarWars.com online content, defunct and otherwise, published prior to the Lucasfilm declaration of April 25, 2014, including but not limited to, the Databank, Encyclopedia, Message Boards, Hyperspace, and Star Wars Blog, as well as content that was published after April 25, 2014 and pertains to Legends source material, such as Star Wars: The Essential Atlas Online Companion, Star Wars: The Essential Guide to Warfare Author's Cut and SkyeWalkers: A Clone Wars Story."
Support[]
- As nominator. Imperators II(Talk) 14:10, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- OOM 224 14:12, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Lewisr (talk) 14:28, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- RogueWhistler (talk) 14:33, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Samonic 14:35, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- TomotronStar Forge 14:39, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- 01miki10 Open comlink 15:02, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- VergenceScatter (talk) 16:04, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- NanoLuukeCloning facility 16:41, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- NBDani (talk) 16:27, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 18:08, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 03:57, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- Definitely. Corellian PremierMTFBWY 12:49, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Oppose[]
Discuss[]
Other Legends web stuff[]
Secondly, I feel that the wording regarding other Legends website content should be made more specific. I realize that HoloNet News (Tumblr) is technically covered under the "The Star Wars Rebels television series and its supplementary source material" clause in the Canon section, but that doesn't make the Legends section's "All other official Star Wars online content, defunct and otherwise, such as HoloNet News and swtor.com" wording any less vague and potentially misleading. I propose changing that item of "Reliable resources" to:
- "All other official Star Wars online content, defunct and otherwise, that was published prior to the Lucasfilm declaration of April 25, 2014, such as HoloNet News, or was published after that date but pertains to Legends source material, such as swtor.com"
Support[]
- As nominator. Imperators II(Talk) 14:10, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- OOM 224 14:12, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Lewisr (talk) 14:28, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- RogueWhistler (talk) 14:33, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Samonic 14:35, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- TomotronStar Forge 14:39, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- 01miki10 Open comlink 15:02, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- NanoLuukeCloning facility 16:41, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- NBDani (talk) 17:54, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 18:08, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 03:57, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- Corellian PremierMTFBWY 12:49, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Oppose[]
Discuss[]
Post-April 25 Dark Horse stuff[]
Next, currently "Reliable resources" reads:
- "All Marvel Comics and Dark Horse Comics published prior to the Lucasfilm declaration of April 25, 2014, with specific exceptions as noted by Lucasfilm, such as the Star Wars: Rebel Heist and Star Wars: Legacy Volume 2 series, which continued past April 25 but were nonetheless classified as Legends"
To my knowledge, there's only one other Dark Horse title that began pre-April 25, 2014 and continued past that date, and that's the 2013 Star Wars series. Even if I'm wrong and there's more out there, I still think it'd be beneficial to specifically list them all here, especially given that neither the 2013 series page nor the page for the first post-April 25 issue of the series mentions the discontinuation of the EU at all. So, I propose this simple change (bolded):
- "All Marvel Comics and Dark Horse Comics published prior to the Lucasfilm declaration of April 25, 2014, with specific exceptions as noted by Lucasfilm, such as the Star Wars: Rebel Heist, Star Wars: Legacy Volume 2, and Dark Horse Comics' 2013 Star Wars series, which continued past April 25 but were nonetheless classified as Legends"
Support[]
- As nominator. Imperators II(Talk) 14:10, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- OOM 224 14:12, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Lewisr (talk) 14:28, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- The Star Wars also crossed the cut-off date, but its canon status is moot. RogueWhistler (talk) 14:33, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Samonic 14:35, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- TomotronStar Forge 14:39, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- 01miki10 Open comlink 15:02, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- VergenceScatter (talk) 16:04, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- NanoLuukeCloning facility 16:41, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- NBDani (talk) 17:55, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 18:08, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 03:57, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- Corellian PremierMTFBWY 12:49, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Oppose[]
Discuss[]
Other post-April 25 comics[]
Finally, there's one more comic "series" that straddles the April 25, 2014 demarkation line and which Wookieepedia treats as Legends, and that's Titan Magazines' Volume 7 of the Star Wars Comic UK magazine. I propose we add the following item under "Reliable resources", between the Marvel/DH item and the video games one:
- "All comic stories included in the Star Wars Comic UK magazine, including its issues published following the Lucasfilm declaration of April 25, 2014"
Support[]
- As nominator. Imperators II(Talk) 14:10, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- OOM 224 14:12, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Lewisr (talk) 14:28, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Samonic 14:35, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- TomotronStar Forge 14:39, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- 01miki10 Open comlink 15:02, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- VergenceScatter (talk) 16:05, 25 June 2022 (UTC)3
- NanoLuukeCloning facility 16:41, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- NBDani (talk) 17:56, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 18:08, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 03:57, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- Corellian PremierMTFBWY 12:49, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Oppose[]
Discuss[]
- Shouldn't we also mention Star Wars (1977) 108 as an exception? NanoLuukeCloning facility 16:41, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not sure...it does specifically include the Legends label on the cover already. Corellian PremierMTFBWY 12:49, 5 July 2022 (UTC)