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Darth Malora[]

See this talk page to get a better sense of why everything that has come out since 5.0 is not necessarily part of Star Wars: The Old Republic: Knights of the Eternal Throne. --Rakhsh (talk) 20:07, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

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Ahsoka[]

Talk:Ahsoka Tano#Why listed as dead?--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 22:17, December 20, 2019 (UTC)

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Removing information[]

Do not remove information only because you believe is speculation, especially if users are disputing the claim. If people claim is Death Watch, but you think they're not and there's a discussion about it, you should not remove the information until there's a concensus. --DarthRuiz30 (talk) 06:42, January 4, 2020 (UTC)

I don't have an opinion on whether it is the Death Watch or not. I removed it because it is speculation. That is not an opinion, it's a fact based on the nonexistence of a source stating that these Mandalorians are in fact Death Watch. --Potsk (talk) 19:29, January 4, 2020 (UTC)
Did you even saw the episode and did some research before claiming it? The insignia is a Death Watch insignia and merchandise names him as a Death Watch Mandalorian. The insignia was enough to keep him as it was. Anyways a discussion/conversation was happening in the talk page and you should always wait for a concensus instead of removing the information.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 21:05, January 4, 2020 (UTC)

Edit War[]

I don't see any edit war, but there seems to be a disagreement between you and another user. I recommend you to leave the user a message about why you disagree with the edits, instead of just reverting.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 05:56, January 24, 2020 (UTC)

Onslaught dates[]

Stop changing the dates of the TOR: Onslaught's events. There's a reasoning behind it and you should argue it first before changing. Just present your argument in this forum: Forum:SH:The Old Republic: Dates. Winterz (talk) 14:30, January 31, 2020 (UTC)

  • I'll just respond with a copy & paste directly from Wookieepedia: "According to Star Wars: The Old Republic's lead designer Charles Boyd, the events depicted in post-launch Game Updates can be assumed to occur in a timeline matching that of their real-time release. Therefore, the later chapters of the Digital Expansion Star Wars: The Old Republic: Knights of the Fallen Empire occur in 3631 BBY. Boyd also confirmed that the sequel, Star Wars: The Old Republic: Knights of the Eternal Throne, is set six to eight months after the end of Fallen Empire, so the events of Eternal Throne can be placed in approximately 3630 BBY. According to Scourge and Kira Carsen, it has been a year since they destroyed Vitiate's original body, which they say happened concurrently with the Battle of Zakuul. The Battle of Zakuul takes place during Knights of the Eternal Throne, which was confirmed to happen in 3630 BBY, meaning that the events of Star Wars: The Old Republic: Onslaught, which includes the appearance of this article's subject, can be dated to 3629 BBY." --Potsk (talk) 18:27, January 31, 2020 (UTC)
    • I don't know where that comes from, you should probably have some link or evidence. Here's what Charles Boyd really said:
Boyd Timeline
Meaning that "real life time" logic only applies until the launch of Knights of the Fallen Empire. Please see the forum I linked above. Even without that whole point, KOTFE and KOTET stories are stated in-game to last 6 years (5 years in freezing and one year of story) so that doesn't even match the respective "real life time". Winterz (talk) 18:35, January 31, 2020 (UTC)
Okay, but the Battle of Zakuul still took place in 3630 BBY. This takes us back to this. "We were both knocked out cold. Comatose for... more than a year." --Potsk (talk) 18:43, January 31, 2020 (UTC)
But where does it say the Battle of Zakuul happened in 3630 BBY?? Winterz (talk) 18:47, January 31, 2020 (UTC)
Chapters II to VII of KOTFE take place in 3632 BBY, based on Choza Raabat's disappearance in 3644 BBY occurring 12 years before the events of these chapters. The following chapters in 3631 BBY span several months. The beginning of the next expansion, KOTET, happens 6-8 months after the end of KOTFE (screenshot). This expansion spans a few months as well. --Potsk (talk) 19:04, January 31, 2020 (UTC)
Man, seriously. Read through the forum which I've linked in the first post. You have no evidence to "following chapters spanning several months." Companions at the end of KOTET state it's been a year since the Outlander was unfrozen. In Wookieepedia, we base things on factual in-universe or official statements, not on our perception of time within a fictional universe. I will not say anything else. Winterz (talk) 19:20, January 31, 2020 (UTC)

Affiliations[]

Will you stop removing the Sith and Sith Academy affiliations? It is not necessary and certainly NOT redundant. Sith individuals are affiliated with the Sith Order; not everyone in the Sith Empire are Sith, many are Imperials or just associated with it like House Thul; and there are Sith who never went to the Sith Academy. Darth Nox and anyone else who attended the Sith Academy are affiliated to it. Andrewh7 (talk) 23:22, February 4, 2020 (UTC) Andrewh7

"Dark Council" should be enough to state that Nox is a Sith. Bullet point examples should be as minimal as possible. This is how it is done on all other articles. --Potsk (talk) 23:36, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
You and Winter are the ONLY ones that are acting as if you two own the Darth Nox and Wrath pages, and like there's a rule that the affiliations can't include schools and institutions, but there is not, so stop removing them from pages. It does not matter if you think adding them is irrational or whatever. Who died and put the two of you in charge anyways? The fact is that if they're affiliated with it, it BELONGS on there. Infoboxes are meant to be objective and brief, but not that brief that there's missing information. Andrewh7 (talk) 23:20, February 11, 2020 (UTC) Andrewh7

RE: Mandalore the Great[]

Many of the spellings for the pages of the show come from subtitles. UberSoldat93 (talk) 17:45, February 10, 2020 (UTC)

  • Yes, but this one is an obvious error. If the subtitles misspelled Din Djarin's name as "Fin", would you insist on naming the page Fin Djarin? --Potsk (talk) 17:47, February 10, 2020 (UTC)
    • Of course not, because we know how it's pronounced in spoken dialogue. UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:11, February 10, 2020 (UTC)
    • Since the naming policy specifies that "article naming shall derive from an official Lucasfilm source," we have been moving away from making any "corrections" of our own unless absolutely necessary. Therefore, even if one may consider the capitalization of "the" to be an error, we will copy it if that is how the name is listed in the source. Currently, the only printed source for this individual's name is the episode subtitles, which I have just verified for myself does capitalize the name as we currently have it, so it must remain at that name unless and until a second source corrects it. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 18:46, February 10, 2020 (UTC)

TROS novelization[]

I got that it was published with a limited release. But here on Wookieepedia, info is posted upon the official release. Same with the films. The info is posted once the film is released in all zones of the USA even if it's prematurely released in other countries. I didn't invent such rule. It's a protocol here. ---- X9 The Android (talk) 23:13, March 6, 2020 (UTC)

Warning[]

Do not post information from The Rise of Skywalker novelization until the official release date. Doesn't matter if it was released in advance in a convention--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 23:13, March 6, 2020 (UTC)

Dark Lord of the Sith[]

How is adding a category for Dark Lords of the Sith of resurgent Sith Empire and changing Sith Lord to Dark Lord of the Sith speculation, unverified and unnecessary if they have Darth in their names / titles. Only Dark Lords of the Sith have Darth as a title. Andrewh7 (talk) 03:14, March 20, 2020 (UTC) Andrewh7

1. Where is your proof that states that only the Dark Council or the Sith Emperor or Empress are the only Dark Lords in the Empire? Unless it says it somewhere, you can’t speculate that there aren’t other non-Dark Council members Dark Lords. Yes on the page, it says that in the exception of Vitiate’s Empire, twelve Council members shared the title, but that is talking about the head of the Sith Order not in general.
2. I read the page and you actually do have a point about the Dark Lord stuff. Andrewh7 (talk) 03:34, March 20, 2020 (UTC) Andrewh7
Regrettably I don't have any proof on hand that there aren't other Dark Lords in the TSE, other than the indirect evidence of Darth Marr's quote "With [the Dark Council], you are ruler of all the Sith", ruler of all the Sith being the occupation of a Dark Lord. But then again you don't have proof that there are, so it is wiser to gather any proof and put them into a CT than to change these things outright, as only Dark Councilors and the Emperor being Dark Lords is apparently agreed upon by the community. Another major point is that there have been Darths who have been 100% proven to not be the Dark Lord of the Sith, such as: Darth Malak, before he usurped Revan's throne of course. He was a Darth, but he was still a Sith Apprentice serving under the one Dark Lord, Darth Revan (well, "one" Dark Lord as in the ruler of that particular Sith Empire. Vitiate/Tenebrae was Dark Lord in his own right at the time). Same goes for Darth Bandon. --Potsk (talk) 08:08, March 20, 2020 (UTC)

Darth Nox[]

Darth Nox had purple eyes other than Force walk like when they used Force lightning to retrieve the holocron on Korriban. The change from Yellow/Orange/Red to Yellow, orange or red is highly unnecessary. There was absolutely nothing wrong with it and was fine to begin with. Andrewh7 (talk) 17:24, April 1, 2020 (UTC) Andrewh7

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Emperor's Wrath[]

And where is it stated that the Empire's Wrath had the title "Darth"? Please provide a link to the source, as I did when I added Vitiate to the Darth list. DarthOcclus1977 (talk)

Succession box[]

Hi Potsk. Please, update your addition of a {{succession_box}} to Alliance Commander with references. Each line in the template need to be referenced. Thanks. NanoLuukeCloning facility 10:11, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Sourcing[]

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  • Could you care to tell me which edit instead of the usual bot-ish message? --Potsk (talk) 07:17, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
    • For starters, here, here, and here. UberSoldat93 Din Djarin's clan (talk) 07:28, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
      • The first two weren't even additions. On Human/Legends I moved "near-human species" from race to subspecies, and on Human I removed a wall of text from the infobox. I admit to the third, however. --Potsk (talk) 12:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
        • Since you've made your disdain for automated messages clear, I'm doing this one manually for your convenience. You must provide a backup link and use the proper citation template when citing external links as mandated by the Sourcing policy, and not do this. UberSoldat93 Din Djarin's clan (talk) 17:32, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
          • I looked for a Reddit citation template but did not find one. --Potsk (talk) 17:35, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Piece[]

Dear Potsk, please don't remove content as you did in the Pierce article, this will be considered vandalism. If there is a mistake in the article, you have to correct it with correct references. In this case, the Pierce recruitment part should be moved to the BtS section, not deleted. Hk 47 (talk) 12:07, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

  • I did move it to BtS. --Potsk (talk) 12:26, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
    • It's handled. To be fair Hk 47, vandalism accusations should not be made lightly. Potsk referenced his change. But also, Potsk, you should not have replaced a decent referenced section with a small Bts sentence. I have made the proper edits. Winterz (talk) 14:42, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Final Order[]

According to the consensus reached on the talk page about whether the page needed to exist. It was an Empire that never actually really existed, it was just proposed --Lewisr (talk) 20:22, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Unverified[]

Hi, Potsk, as you're well aware, our sourcing policy requires that any information must be referenced, unlike what you added on Simon Kassianides. If you want to find a source for any dates (or anything in relation to OOU subjects), please note that it must comes from a reliable primary source (no referencing Wikipedia or Imdb, for example). Thanks. --NanoLuukeCloning facility 14:09, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

RE: "Last known appearance"[]

To be perfectly honest with you, I weighted on what I should answer, as I had some doubts. My revert of your edit wasn't based on any policy, as there are none on the relevant subject. Still it was my impression that it was what we should do. Further conversations on the subject with others editors convinced me I was right to do so. Regarding the main image on Anakin Skywalker, I would advise not to follow that line of thought as it is a quite complicated and kind of unique topic, as revealed by the article talk page(s) and the history of Consensus Tracks surrounding that article. --NanoLuukeCloning facility 19:35, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Introduction[]

Per WP:MOS, the introduction is supposed to summarise what's in the article body. OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 12:15, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

RE:Robin Pronovost[]

Per Fandom's Community Creation Policy: "consider that real-life individuals, notable or otherwise, may declare a change as to how they identify themselves and that changes to articles to reflect names, pronouns, and other identifiers of gender are to be respected and accommodated." Robin Pronovost personally requested the removal of that information. Also Fandom has expressed to us that deadnames as redirect should be the only mention to the deadname.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 21:01, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

RE:Coruscant Aegis[]

I understand what you mean, and I must admit that I forgot that the article started way sooner than I thought it did. Anyway, I stand by my initial argument, the Aegis has not be "seen" around since their last battle, so there's really no evidence to say the Squadron was still active during the timeline covered by the article. Furthermore, to include something in the infobox that wouldn't be featured anywhere else on the article is highly confusing for readers, and forbidden as per the Layout Guide, even if it can be argued that it's "inherently implied by a stated role ", which again is a highly debatable point since the initial information as no place in the article itself. -- NanoLuukeCloning facility 12:11, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Nathema Conspiracy[]

Hey there. The anon who added the info from the Nathema Conspiracy was actually correct. Echoes of Oblivion shows those characters as spirits, so it's reasonable to assume that they all died on Nathema. OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 20:52, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

  • No, that's still a baseless assumption. They died, sure enough, but not on Nathema as they only ever appear on Nathema based on your own decisions. The "suddenly captured by the Order of Zildrog" part is also purely invented by the editor. --Potsk (talk) 21:17, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Given the context, I think it's a logical deduction, though I do agree that "suddenly captured" is speculation and should be removed. Since there's disagreements and this affects a lot of things across the wiki, perhaps a Senate Hall thread is in order? I'll start one tomorrow if one hasn't been made yet. At any rate, it's more constructive then edit-warring over multiple articles. OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 21:22, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
      • Sorry about that, you're right. I confused the anon's edits to the Nathema Conspiracy people with the characters who actually appear in Echoes of Oblivion. The Nathema Conspiracy characters never appear in Echoes. OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 22:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
        • There was one, Sophia Farash. As for the others though, I don't know. --Potsk (talk) 22:16, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Talk pages[]

Per our Talk page policy, please do not create talk pages solely to add the Talkheader and WookieeProject templates. Thanks. 1358 (Talk) 16:59, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Attribution[]

In regards to this edit, please verify information from actual sources before changing it. This promotes potential misinformation. UberSoldat93 Din Djarin's clan (talk) 15:17, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Source(s)?[]

Can you please provide references for your recent additions to the Dark Reaper Crisis? It's a multi-source article, and the original article being unreferenced is no excuse for not referencing your own edits. OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 20:19, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Darth Tenebrous' Period as Dark Lord of the Sith under his master[]

Tenebrous' master died in 167 BBY. This is confirmed. I noticed the error in the succession box yesterday, and corrected it, but you reverted it back to say that Tenebrous trained under his master from 167 BBY to 67 BBY. In reality, Tenebrous was Dark lord of the Sith with his apprentices Plaguis and Venamis during that time period. The New Essential Chronology has already proved very unreliable as far as dates are concerned. Can you please allow me to revert it to the correct version? --Jarhead002 Talk 16:53,July 3,2021 (UTC)

I only reverted because you re-added something someone else undid previously. Talk with them to settle the matter. --Potsk (talk) 20:54, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Source for "Trade Federation of Planets"?[]

May I ask what the source was for renaming the Legends Trade Federation page to "Trade Federation of Planets"?--The All-knowing Sith'ari (talk) 14:05, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Star Wars Galaxies: An Empire Divided --Potsk (talk) 15:24, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Alternate names[]

Hello, please note that I've reverted all your edits that added alternate names to characters' infoboxes. It has never been done before, and it should not be done without a previous discussion. Thank you. LucaRoR Sigil of House Serenno (Talk) 14:35, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Neither the LG nor the MoS state that alternate names should be put in the infobox. This matter is currently undergoing a discussion on the Wookieepedia Discord server, which you would be welcome to join, and it may lead to a SH. Please refrain from adding the alternate names again until the situation gets sorted. Thanks. LucaRoR Sigil of House Serenno (Talk) 16:04, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Citation needed[]

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  • I've added a citation. No need for a guide, you could have just said "Hey, this edit needs a citation." --Potsk (talk) 19:04, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
    • Unfortunately, you're still failing to do this. UberSoldat93 Din Djarin's clan (talk) 14:24, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
      • Look at the sources. --Potsk (talk) 14:30, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
        • If all the information in the article came from those sources, then cite them. "Look at the sources" is not proper attribution. OOM 224 14:44, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Infobox images[]

Years of precedent and talk page discussions consider non–live action headshots preferrable if live action headshots are not available. Please do not go around changing these images without getting some community input in the Senate Hall first. Thanks. 1358 (Talk) 15:31, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Then should Boba Fett/Legends have an image from one of the comics? --Potsk (talk) 15:33, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

MoS[]

Pretty sure you need to look at the proposed Manual of style link under 'As with the LG restructuring, the MoS has been thoroughly revamped but there are no changes to existing practice, really' on that CT. Because what I linked in my edit summary was from the manual of style Lewisr (talk) 14:53, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

  • No worries it's all good! Lewisr (talk) 15:10, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Red/orange eyes[]

Can you run me through the details of the changes of eyes color for human Sith leading you to modify a few articles recently. Where does this information originate? Looking at the image of Darth Mortis, a color sampling left me with the impression we're seeing colors going from orange to red orange to crimson. However, a quick look at Darth Mortis (on Nathema) on jedipedia.net display this details: "eyecolor_sith_non_h04_s" which seems quite red when presented without any graphic "trick" (lightning, shading, etc). So right now, I'm a bit confused about this, and would appreciate some clarification. NanoLuukeCloning facility 17:04, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Years ago the way eyes and lighting work in SWTOR was changed. I don't know the specific update, but since then there aren't any human characters with red eyes, not even player characters displaying level 5 dark side corruption. At least outside of the raw models without lighting and such (which shouldn't be taken as the definite source for colors; some Sith purebloods look pink or brown in their raw models although they're clearly red, orange, or purple-ish ingame). This more recent video featuring Darth Mortis shows that his eyes are more of a fiery orange than the red it was in earlier versions of the game. Red eyes are still available to aliens like Sith, Rattattaki, Zabraks, and Cathar. Potsk (talk) 18:48, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Unnecessary removal[]

What reason could you possibly have for removing the red eye color on the Darth Nox page? It is completely uncalled for and unnecessary. Red is one of the eye colors a character can get if they go further in the dark side and make enough dark side choices, so there is no reason to remove it. Andrewh7 (talk) 22:49, 6 July 2022 (UTC) Andrewh7

See literally right above this message. Red eyes no longer exist for humans, and by adding "red" you're making the assumption that the character is not a human, thus speculating. Potsk (talk) 10:02, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Mohsenian in Kenobi[]

Hi Potsk! Can you tell me where you saw a Mohsenian in Part V of Kenobi? I've scoured the episode with no luck. Thanks! Crowbuster (talk) 23:34, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

I don't even remember adding that to the appearances. It's probably there somewhere considering I was confident enough to add it at the time, but if you can't verify it feel free to remove it. Potsk (talk) 00:14, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
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