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This tag has been burninated. Please do not recreate it. If you need advice on which tag to use, see the answer below. If you see this tag reappearing, it may need to be blacklisted.


The tag has 204 questions tagged right now, but no usage guidance or tag wiki. The questions are about hiding something from the users mostly.

The four criteria for burnination:

  1. Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous? No
  2. Is the concept described even on-topic for the site? Not sure, it's broad
  3. Does the tag add any meaningful information to the post? No
  4. Does it mean the same thing in all common contexts? No

Can we burninate it?

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    Kill it with fire.
    – Chris
    Commented Aug 7, 2017 at 11:33
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    Stats at the start of featuring: Q: +61/-3. A1 (Saying Yes) +21/-2. Commented May 9, 2019 at 18:30
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    Stats at the end of featuring: Q: +99/-4. A1 (Saying Yes) +61/-2. The community has voted in favor of burninating the tag Commented May 12, 2019 at 2:47

2 Answers 2

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has been burninated.

trogdor

Thanks to everyone who participated.

Observations/Retag Guidance:

  • Use for questions related to hiding members using inheritence.
  • Use for questions related to declaring a class member in a derived class with the same name as a method in a base class, without using the language's explicit "override" mechanism. E.g.: the new modified in c#.

Progress:

The tag is in the process of being burninated. You can help out by reviewing the questions with this tag, and...

  • editing questions to improve the question and remove the tag (retag-only edits are best left to users with full edit privileges; i.e. > 2k reputation),
  • flagging/voting to close questions that are duplicates/off-topic/unclear/too broad/opinion-based (users with < 3k reputation can help quite a bit by flagging questions for closure, which helps keep the Close Vote Review Queue full),
  • filtering for questions with this tag in the Close Vote Queue,
  • voting on questions with this tag,
  • voting to delete the questions with this tag (after they have been closed, and only if the entire Q&A contains nothing of value). However, keep in mind that at the end of the burnination process all closed questions containing this tag will be deleted automatically. Thus, there's rarely a need to vote to delete these questions.

Here are some quick links to get you started:

Track the progress of the burnination!

Dashboard for progress

Remember that burnination is a clean-up effort!

Salvage whatever possible by editing and re-tagging.

We don't want to destroy value, so salvaging a post should be your first priority. If a question can be saved, please edit it. Your edit should improve all problems with the question and remove the tag, possibly replacing it with another tag, as described above in "Observations/Retag Guidance".

Unsalvageable questions should just be flagged/voted for closure. They don't need to be retagged.

If the question is not appropriate for this site, then don't worry about removing the tag — just flag/vote to close the question.

Do not downvote questions in order to trigger roomba

At the end of the burnination process, all questions which still have the tag should have been closed. These will be mass-deleted, which will remove the tag from the system automatically, with minimal disruption.

Ask for help if you need it.

If you have any questions about specific questions you come across, or the process in general, please feel free to leave a comment on this post. You can also drop into the SOCVR chat room for real-time advice and discussion.

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  • OK, so there are some questions about the new modifier in c#: When used as a declaration modifier, the new keyword explicitly hides a member that is inherited from a base class. This isn't the same as overriding as the base class member is still present on the derived class, it's just less accessible and replaced with something else. See this answer by Erik Lippert for details. What are we to do with these?
    – dbc
    Commented May 12, 2019 at 5:48
  • I'm not that sure of the exact tag there, @dbc, but if you feel that there needs to be a new tag created for that, please do feel free to create one, and update this answer asking users to use the tag. Thanks for your help. Commented May 12, 2019 at 5:52
  • Well there's already member-hiding and method-hiding which would seem to apply. In fact the original answer brings these two up along with "property-hiding" (which currently has no questions). this answer gives "member" as the more general term for c# at least, so should we use that (and tag c# method-hiding questions)? method-hiding is more popular for c# though at 43 questions vs 8 questions.
    – dbc
    Commented May 12, 2019 at 5:56
  • Hmm, member-hiding has guidance Declaring a class member in a derived class with the same name as a method in a base class. so let's go with that.
    – dbc
    Commented May 12, 2019 at 6:03
  • @dbc, ah, cool. Thanks. Would it make sense to merge the [method-hiding] and [member-hiding] tags, atleast in terms of C#? Commented May 12, 2019 at 6:07
  • Probably. But there are java and a few c++ questions there also and I frame no hypotheses about what to do with them.
    – dbc
    Commented May 12, 2019 at 6:10
  • That sounds fine to me, thanks. While we're on the same topic of tags, can I get a small help from you on the C# related portion in this other tag merge request? meta.stackoverflow.com/q/381728/4099593. Thanks for your help. (top users in the tag helping out makes it really simple for me, so thanks a lot) Commented May 12, 2019 at 6:12
  • Re your request for meta.stackoverflow.com/q/381728/4099593, I retagged Override And Call Base Property Set Method but C#: Generics, Polymorphism And Specialization seems to be a request for how to implement c++ template specialization in c# (which you can't do).
    – dbc
    Commented May 12, 2019 at 7:27
  • that's perfect, thank you so much @dbc. Commented May 12, 2019 at 7:32
  • What is the relationship to the hidden tag?
    – dbc
    Commented May 12, 2019 at 8:08
  • None at the moment @dbc. But that tag's in need of a cleanup/burnination sometime soon. Commented May 12, 2019 at 8:09
  • I see there's also a hide tag: Methods for hiding visual components, particularly with regard to HTML Should we be retagging posts that are really about hiding objects graphically with this tag? Ex: Making shapes invisible/visible in excel through VBA.
    – dbc
    Commented May 13, 2019 at 23:26
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    Given that [hide] has a burnination request of its own, I'd not use that tag. @dbc Commented May 14, 2019 at 0:31
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I agree that we should get rid of it.

Hiding can refer to:

  1. members hidden using inheritance (related, but perhaps not identical, to )

  2. hiding something ...

    from the user

(1) and (2) seems on topic and specific and meaningful enough to justify having a tag, so we should probably just retag to more specific tags.

(3) is probably not specific enough and needs to just be removed.


On a related note, we should probably figure out whether we really need all these tags:
, , , , , .

The first 4 of those seem like they would relate to (1), while the last 2 would relate to (2), but I didn't really check how they're actually being used.


We should also get rid of , and also perhaps .
See also ​[Hide] the whole [show-hide] [show].

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    I'm totally going to make [raw-hide] now, just for completeness
    – Machavity Mod
    Commented Aug 7, 2017 at 18:23
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    The fact that it can refer to 3 separate things kind of implies that it's a bad tag, though - tags really should unambiguously describe the content. Commented Aug 7, 2017 at 18:24
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    @EJoshuaS I was agreeing that it should be removed - edited to clarify that. Commented Aug 7, 2017 at 18:26
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    I agree with points 1 and 2, then - it seems like those could be given more specific tags. Commented Aug 7, 2017 at 18:28
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    @Machavity Well... What about [cooked-hide] *I'll show myself the door now*
    – Malekai
    Commented May 10, 2019 at 14:01
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    @LogicalBranch You mean [prepared-hide], surely.
    – Mr Lister
    Commented May 10, 2019 at 14:19
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    @MrLister I don't prepare (or wear) hide, I eat it with the meat like a man.
    – Malekai
    Commented May 10, 2019 at 16:39
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    I think the only question is if any of the *-hiding tags should be dragged into this cleanup, or be used as retagging targets. Commented May 10, 2019 at 18:07
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    @MrLister I believe in the industry is called [tanned-hide]
    – Braiam
    Commented May 11, 2019 at 13:58
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    any bama fans in here? [rolt-hide]
    – Erich
    Commented Dec 11, 2020 at 19:16

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