please dont update this mod, we dont need more cheaters in this game that can kill ppl with a button press.
For everyone thinking this only can happen when you are stat cheating, no. You can manipulate the Stats from others inside the world with Cheat Engine and Stat tracker will see it as cheating an you can kill em with the power from Gywn. If this doesnt get fixed, we dont need this tracker.
Can you elaborate on this? I agree that player stat checker is a bit OP but it is a good tool for people that don't cheat to deal with cheaters. I'd love to have a tool available that only takes action against cheaters but other than using this or CE directly don't know of one.
And since CE has already been updated to work with the newest patch we need something to combat PVP cheaters.
You do realize this only kills other cheaters and not legitimate/clean players right? Also this tool would still be helpful when dealing with other cheaters while we wait for blue sentinel to update.
Even though this is both a cheat and an anti cheat, what other choices do you have in terms of cheater protection as of right now aside from using a cheat yourself to protect yourself? Blue sentinel hasn't updated yet, so that's not an option right now. Alt F4ing penalizes you if done enough times, blocking them...kinda works if you can define who was actually cheating if there's multiple people as you could block the wrong person, get summoned/invade the cheater again and there may still be a crowd there for you to blindly block.
Having auto revive in the presence of another cheater may make them disconnect you either by alt f4 or unplugging their routers, which can penalize them eventually. Having a kill option as well to punish stat cheaters and other kinds of cheaters is good to have so you can punish them like the filthy rats they are instead of giving them a free prize.
I guess non of you is aware that you can edit the stats from enemies (Players) inside the world with Cheat Engine? And Stat tracker gets his Informations from your Memory where Cheat Engine also gets his info and where it can be edited by CE, means you edit the memory of the player you dont like example edit his vigor to 1 or whatever Stat checker will detact this as a cheater since you edited his vigor and his stats wont add up and you can press "kill player"
All what he has to change is, dont implement a button or something that can be abused to kill players, just kick em is enough. Or better, make it that the mod reads from the network like BS/Pyre does it, you have to rewrite the entire stat checker to be hooked via dinput8 but would make it unabuseable with CE.
also with the latest update even "kill all mobs" killed every NPC even players, you didnt even needed "kill player" anymore.
This stat checker was only used to harm in online play and wasnt used to fight against cheater or to save you from them.
If the dev plans to update it, DELETE every Feature that can kill players, i dont mind adding the old "kill all mobs" feature back from older versions that didnt killed NPC Character/Players, lead to an issues with some bosses like deacons of the deep (you cant kill em with this script) but thats not a huge problem. Also delete the auto revive since we cant instant curse auto revive abuser anymore, this feature will also just harm overall pvp
But i dont believe this will be updated anytime soon, non of the original cheat table scripter is working on updating those so he would have to find all the values and pointers by himself rather than just copy and paste all infos from the grand archives cheat table
I've been working on this code and am considering releasing a light version of this which has the following changes:
* Remove kill * Change kill all mobs to do only that, not wipe the map including players * Remove many other cheats (like covenants, heal all, stats, etc.) completely * Disable most functions during co-op/PVP sessions. For example, auto-revive, tears, dried finger, etc. * Enable above functions when cheater is detected. * Retain auto-revive for offline play and if a cheater is detected, otherwise disabled * Kick only when cheater detected, you can't just kick anyone
IMO if you want more you should be using CE anyway. We shouldn't expose these features to the masses.
I will not release the code as it would be too easy for people to re-enable things during online play.
So far I have all of the above working except kill all mobs and kick.
I think releasing the lite version, and removing the base code for the cheats, to prevent re-enabling. I remember being able to remove the check for player cheats in the code before, and am sure it could still be done. Highly recommend the lite version just to kick cheaters. Also the respec and port to shrine would be awesome too. Just remove the cheats, unneeded for most people.
I like that direction. Just stats and kick. If you want kill all mobs, auto revive, etc. that all works in CE and they are easy scripts to execute. Now I need to figure out how to kick in the new DS3 patch version...
How those it detact cheats? When its get the Infos of the memory and not by the game itself while being hooked inside the games code through a dll file, it will most likely be abuseable again with cheat engine, if so, we dont need this.
Given the fact that the code reads from game memory and that can be abused, I'm not going to continue down the road of updating this. Blue Sentinel is going to be updated eventually so we should all wait for that.
just dont add stuff that can be abused for pvp, we dont need self res in any form, we dont need a cheap way to kick ppl, if there is a cheater quit the session and move on, cheaters cant even harm your savefile anymore Fromsoft fixed that shit. All we need is a decent tool that shows us the stats of the enemies hotkeys to enable Red/White soapstones, fingers and redeyedorb. Well DS3 connection info can do this on its own but not everyone is using it
please update this mod, we need less cheaters in this game so let's kill them with a button press.
For everyone not thinking this can't only happen when you are not stat cheating, yes. You can't manipulate the Stats from others inside the world with Cheat Engine and Stat tracker won't see it as cheating an you can't kill em with the power from Gywn. If this does get fixed, we do need this tracker.
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For everyone thinking this only can happen when you are stat cheating, no. You can manipulate the Stats from others inside the world with Cheat Engine and Stat tracker will see it as cheating an you can kill em with the power from Gywn. If this doesnt get fixed, we dont need this tracker.
And since CE has already been updated to work with the newest patch we need something to combat PVP cheaters.
Even though this is both a cheat and an anti cheat, what other choices do you have in terms of cheater protection as of right now aside from using a cheat yourself to protect yourself? Blue sentinel hasn't updated yet, so that's not an option right now. Alt F4ing penalizes you if done enough times, blocking them...kinda works if you can define who was actually cheating if there's multiple people as you could block the wrong person, get summoned/invade the cheater again and there may still be a crowd there for you to blindly block.
Having auto revive in the presence of another cheater may make them disconnect you either by alt f4 or unplugging their routers, which can penalize them eventually. Having a kill option as well to punish stat cheaters and other kinds of cheaters is good to have so you can punish them like the filthy rats they are instead of giving them a free prize.
All what he has to change is, dont implement a button or something that can be abused to kill players, just kick em is enough. Or better, make it that the mod reads from the network like BS/Pyre does it, you have to rewrite the entire stat checker to be hooked via dinput8 but would make it unabuseable with CE.
This stat checker was only used to harm in online play and wasnt used to fight against cheater or to save you from them.
If the dev plans to update it, DELETE every Feature that can kill players, i dont mind adding the old "kill all mobs" feature back from older versions that didnt killed NPC Character/Players, lead to an issues with some bosses like deacons of the deep (you cant kill em with this script) but thats not a huge problem.
Also delete the auto revive since we cant instant curse auto revive abuser anymore, this feature will also just harm overall pvp
But i dont believe this will be updated anytime soon, non of the original cheat table scripter is working on updating those so he would have to find all the values and pointers by himself rather than just copy and paste all infos from the grand archives cheat table
* Remove kill
* Change kill all mobs to do only that, not wipe the map including players
* Remove many other cheats (like covenants, heal all, stats, etc.) completely
* Disable most functions during co-op/PVP sessions. For example, auto-revive, tears, dried finger, etc.
* Enable above functions when cheater is detected.
* Retain auto-revive for offline play and if a cheater is detected, otherwise disabled
* Kick only when cheater detected, you can't just kick anyone
IMO if you want more you should be using CE anyway. We shouldn't expose these features to the masses.
I will not release the code as it would be too easy for people to re-enable things during online play.
So far I have all of the above working except kill all mobs and kick.
What are people's thoughts?
Great idea.
How those it detact cheats? When its get the Infos of the memory and not by the game itself while being hooked inside the games code through a dll file, it will most likely be abuseable again with cheat engine, if so, we dont need this.
For everyone not thinking this can't only happen when you are not stat cheating, yes. You can't manipulate the Stats from others inside the world with Cheat Engine and Stat tracker won't see it as cheating an you can't kill em with the power from Gywn. If this does get fixed, we do need this tracker.