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Editor[]

Hi Dantman I am a new editor and very keen too, soo i am just requesting you to make me a sysop or rollback editor please thank you Ravendra275(Ravendra275 (talk) 16:07, March 14, 2014 (UTC))

Naruto Character Page: Indra[]

Hello Dantman

I need your help recently their been multiple edits regarding the Naruto character Indra's page. the details are a bit to lengthy to explain but the some of the users have came to an agreement on a specific speculation regarding the character Indra and have agreed to put into the article and pass it off as facts. this could mislead many fans that comes to read the website for reliable source and is ultimately breaking the policy. I already let them know that I was going to report them, I'm guessing one them has a position on here that allows him to lock articles to prevent other from changing the speculations within the articles. I have repeatly told them that what they where doing was wrong and that they need to provide a reference for their source. they claim that they didn't need to because everyone agreed to the speculation and it was their most logical conclusion to do so. I'm trying to do the right thing here and if there is anyway you could help It would be very appreciated.--Ankhael (talk) 20:25, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

input needed[]

Hi. I think this is a quite important topic, it revolves around the credibility of our articles. We shouldn't pass possibly non-canon colors as canon. Any opinion? Thanks in advance--Elveonora (talk) 13:07, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Handling vague age in infoboxes[]

Should just require a change to the regular express variables. Specifically the RegexAppend field. — SimAnt ^(Blog) 02:36, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

I did think of trimming the s but wouldn't that again be technically/semantically wrong because she is not exactly 30?

Wikia do have a Lua but I guess its not for 1.19...

On another note do you have any idea what might be causing the Semantic Forms error: backtrace limit exceeded during parsing! Please increase the value of pcre.backtrack-limitin the PHP settings error while form-editing?

Is that because of the size of our templates?~UltimateSupreme 05:36, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

• Yeah I guess it's wrong. The alternative since we don't actually have any by-age feature or filters is simply to drop the Age:: property when 30s is used.
• That Lua extension is dead, the extension that runs lua on Wikipedia and other WMF wiki is Scribunto.
• I'm not sure if that's because of the templates themselves. Considering what SF does that might actually be a case of SF using an inefficient backtracing regexp that has issues when large runs of actual content are used in a form value. Though I'm not certain.

~ Daniel Friesen ^{(DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk ⁝ Animanga Talk)} 06:09, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

UltiSup/Dantman, that error has been there for a quite a while (about August 4th 2013). I even reported it to Wikia but it has never been fixed. See here: User talk:Simant/Archive 10#.3Faction.3Dformedit --Speysider ^{Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel} 10:22, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Here's Wikia's reply to my question:

"We are very, very, very close to rolling out Lua (Scribunto) to the Wikia network. Stay tuned, we'll have announcements within two to three weeks."

~ Daniel Friesen ^{(DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk ⁝ Animanga Talk)} 16:05, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, this is the proper extension...--~UltimateSupreme 14:44, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

And finally, its here--~UltimateSupreme 14:55, June 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re: rollback[]

I made the revert because we don't add duplicate links and because the same type of edit has been undone a great many times on the wiki by many other users: simply put, if the link is in the infobox and the article is short, we don't add another link as it is pointless. Another link is only added if the article is really long and there's been a gap since it was last linked, per the Manual of Style guidelines. I should have used an explained undo, but just clicked the Rollback button in error. --Speysider ^{Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel} 10:20, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

ShounenSuki[]

I understand why this user became a sysop: Suki was the main translator to this wiki. However, I cannot fathom why said user still continues to possess a sysop flag when the user has clearly left the wiki and has no intention of returning. Wouldn't it make more sense to remove Suki's sysop flag so that people don't go and ask the user questions expecting an answer they cannot get? I've spoken to a lot of people and they can't understand why Suki is still marked as a sysop either. --Speysider ^{Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel} 17:50, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Custodian[]

Hi Dantman. One of the main things that I do on the wiki is to move images to new file names where appropriate. The problem is that this leaves redirects that then need to be tagged for deletion and that could take a while. I believe Wikia has a custodian flag that provides the ability for a user to suppress redirect creation so I'm asking if it's possible that I could be given the "custodian" flag to suppress redirects. Thanks. [if any other sysop sees this, they can chime in] --SuperSajuuk ^{Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel} 13:28, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I'll drop a message to Snapper2 as he usually deletes most of the redirects left behind, and I'll also ask Ten Tailed Fox and UltimateSupreme as they also delete similar redirects. Thanks! --SuperSajuuk ^{Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel} 19:28, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

I just checked the list of flags available on the wiki, for some reason I cannot see any flag called Custodian at all. I checked another wiki and they seem to have custodian. Is this something that needs to be enabled by Wikia Staff specifically ? EDIT: I checked on Central Wiki, it does need to be created by wiki staff, so either yourself or another sysop will have to contact Wikia in order for this to actually happen. --SuperSajuuk ^{Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel} 19:38, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Sysop Discussion thread moderation[]

Will do. I only deleted that neutral post and notified the admin because there was no valid reasoning. Like Foxie said, it isn't a popularity poll, (and like you said, you won't promote based on poll, there must be reasonings). I thought I was following what you and Foxie said. But I understand. And I think I did put my reasons there... I apologize for any misunderstading. • WindStar7125 _[Mod] 20:28, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Oh ok :). I understand perfectly. Thanks! • WindStar7125 _[Mod] 20:34, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Gadgets[]

The gadgets extension has been acting very weird lately. The gadgets suddenly stop working and the Gadget tab disappears from Prefs. So, it might be better to use Gadgets only for the non-essential stuff...

Since you have moved the VotesTally script to gadgets; wouldn't it make more sense to hide it by default (for users who choose to disable it)?--~UltimateSupreme 13:08, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

'Grats[]

Why on earth have you just moved the VotesTally and ForumTags scripts to gadgets?! Seriously, put them back, you've just broken templates and defeated the whole point of the scripts in the first place, nor did you even ask a single person before moving them. Thanks for breaking everything for no reason at all. -_- --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 14:55, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

I agree wholeheartedly. That move was pointless and now its preventing the wiki from operating whatsoever. You're more harm than good at this poor Daniel and it has to stop! I say we try hostile takeōvā #23. Honestly, do you read what you type? --Cerez365^™(talk) 15:20, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

Edit: I looked and apparently you put them there and made them always load. The mere fact they're gadgets annoys me, they should not be gadgets at all and should always load in the Common.js, instead of being things anyone can disable and defeating their purpose. You should have discussed this with your community, because you actually violated a consensus on the forum tags script by moving it to a gadget and making it optional for users to use, especially as your edit to the votestally script now makes it easy for anyone to go and break a template. So please, revert your edits and discuss it with the community. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 15:33, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

There is a page for it: Special:Preferences

However, the page keeps on breaking and makes it impossible for people to disable and enable gadgets for months and months at a time, it shouldn't be used.

If you must have this as a gadget, make it so ForumTags and VotesTally are enabled and cannot be disabled for any reason, they're key wiki scripts. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 20:03, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

It does appear for me (on the Oasis skin), but usually for like one day before disappearing for months and months.

I think the gadgets feature is just for those scripts that can only be installed personally, which is why the forumtags and votestally scripts were put in the common.js for everyone, because they can be used site wide without violating the customisation policy. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 20:22, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

Honestly, I looked on the dev wikia and found this, which we could just import, nullifying any reason for the local script we have.

The AcountNav script doesn't appear to be a violation of the customisation policy as far as I can tell, so I don't really know why that is a gadget at all.

The file renaming script isn't really used by many and those who do use it have it in their global.js or wikia.js files.

The script to filter the WikiActivity is probably not used by very many people and could just be a thread with the associated code that people can add to their personal js pages.

Overall, that and the fact Gadgets cannot really be accessed anywhere on Wikia sites that have it active, means we could just necessary things in the common.js, at least until Wikia fixes stuff (however, because Gadgets can be manually disabled by end users, I don't see them as a substitute for scripts that need to be loaded at all times for all users). --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 20:42, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

It's subjective what would be useful in a gadget.

On another note, are you able to come on the onsite chat? --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 21:22, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

Alright, well I'll be on the chat for a little while if you wish to chat there. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 21:26, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

"@_@ I need 3 test users just to test one piece of functionality. lol" < isn't that kind of a proof that I was right in the first place about the forumadmin right? :P --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 21:42, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

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That's generally true. But wikia provides a special importArtilcles() which creates a properly formatted URL for use with ResourceLoader, performs sanity checks and provides user feedback. So, it actually loads all the scripts with RL(load.php). Our common.js import currently looks like this. So, using gadgets purely for optimization is useless.

SigReminder actually is non-essential. That's the reason it uses confirm() and not alert(). The script was added when anons could still edit here and almost every post they made was unsigned. But recently it was giving some false positives and causing trouble to some regular users. So, I felt it best to move it to Gadgets (Though I did find the cause later).

Gadgets tab does appear in oasis. Its just on this wiki that it randomly disappears. The Avatar and Star Wars wiki don't seem to face this problem.--~UltimateSupreme 05:20, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

I have been thinking of adding it using mw.util.addCSS

Isn't Common.css loaded by RL as well? So, can't we just put that in it?--~UltimateSupreme 06:11, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Chat[]

Hey, was wondering if you are available to come on the wiki chat? don't worry if you can't, but would really like to chat there :P --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 20:27, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Just as a note, it has been crashing lately so just be aware of that if you do come on chat. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 20:34, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re: forumadmin[]

Would that have a requirement for enabling the Message Walls feature? Or can it be checked without needing Message Walls enabled? Because, frankly, the idea of the forums works but it having to depend on Walls is kinda sucky. If you wish, we can chat about it on the wiki's chat room, if you have the time for that :P --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 21:26, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

Well, it's good to hear that Walls don't need to be enabled.

What about rollbacks though? They don't even have these specific rights and can edit anyone's posts anyway, do rollbacks get it passively by default?

I'll be in chat for about 30 mins tonight, if you want to chat there :P --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 21:45, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

That is indeed a very strange way of going about checking editing rights.

I really hope Wikia gets these forum rights sorted out and not dependent on the Message Walls feature, because it makes so little sense to depend on that. o.O

You should get involved in the forums development imo. :P

(I hope you didn't miss my chat room request above)

--Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 21:54, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

Archive[]

You might want to consider archiving your talkpage, as it has messages dating back to 2010 on it currently, making it pretty long (and I'm certain that its length is likely going to be violating the Wikia TOU for breaking wikia features [the bottom black bar doesn't pop out], plus usertags aren't updating [for personal js or local commons js], and the toc box doesn't expand) --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 12:56, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

New Sysop[]

I see you're still here. You have read all the threads carefully, I assume? Are you still deciding who will be a sysop? Just asking. • WindStar7125 _[Mod] 22:53, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Decision[]

Before you make your decision on Speysider (Sajuuk), I just want to say again in my honest opinion he should stick with what he has now. He may make helpful edits and maintains the forums, but he does not at times approach or speak to others appropriately to be a sysop. And after how he spoke to Ultimate3, it proves he doesn't have the correct sysop attitude. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 01:35, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Says the person who is rude to just about everyone who doesn't get their own way. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 08:18, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

By the way...[]

How is the ForumAdmin flag working out? I'd like for us mods to actually be ForumMods with the flag who are able to control the boisterousness of the forums (and close them if necessary) rather than just having the green markers to our names... Unfortunately, forums have become more of a thorn in our side rather than a valuable asset to the wiki... • WindStar7125 _[Mod] 01:53, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

You're right, things like editing other's posts shouldn't be allowed to anyone but moderators. And Mods should be able to close threads that get out of hand as well, rather than wait on sysops to take action. And what exactly are those two groups? • WindStar7125 _[Mod] 04:31, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Cool. Not to sound impatient, but approximately how long would that take? • WindStar7125 _[Mod] 04:33, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

I'd like to ask if the forum "admin" group (the one that will get the block rights) can also have MediaWiki page access? There is a mediawiki page that controls the forum policy page and I'd like to have access to edit that page (as well as the ForumChanges.js page) without requesting sysops to do so. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 08:18, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

May I also be added to the ForumAdmin group? It would be great to help out Sajuuk manage the chaos on the forums. • WindStar7125 _[Mod] 13:01, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

^ I would agree with this, also I think that the forumadmin group should have the ability to grant both forumadmin and forummoderator, but forumadmin should also be able to remove forummoderator, but not forumadmin. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 13:04, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Reply[]

The rights to edit those two protected pages would be the protect right that lets you edit every protected page on the wiki, protect, unprotect, and edit every site-wide JS page on the wiki.

No, the MediaWiki pages are covered by the "editinterface" right, not the "editprotectedpages" right.

JS permissions are also a dangerous thing to give out. Besides being easily broken, and having a potential for malicious insertion of malware or incompetent insertion of XSS vectors, they can be used to trick sysop accounts into using sysop powers.

Way over-dramatic, especially as forumadmin is very unlikely to be given to many people.

Honestly, if you trust people to block users, you can trust them not to be malicious with other things: otherwise, why bother granting block tools if you don't trust users with the forumadmin right?

Also, while I'm at it: will it include the boardedit right? That, I believe, is required to edit the forum boards. Also, if you can, please come onto chat. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 20:09, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

It only seems to work where cascading protection isn't used.

That would be pretty much every protected page on this wiki then, since cascading protection is pretty much not used here (if it is, I have never seen any such pages)

I don't know how many people I'm going to be giving Forum Admin in the end, or what the variety of trust they have is.

I doubt very many people will have that, for the most part it'll be more like having a maximum of 2 users with forumadmin (at the start anyway) and a lot of people with forummoderator. From my perspective, since I'll probably be the only user with that flag, it will probably be my call to decide who gets forumadmin alongside myself anyway.

is significantly different than trusting someone with the rights to insert malware, break the site such that the average sysop doesn't understand how to access the tools to undo it, and trick users with higher permissions into doing actions like rights grants that can only be undone by staff.

The chances of someone deliberately going out of their way to add javascript/jquery code to break the site is close to zero. There's almost no chance of it happening, I don't think there is any need to worry that anyone with the ability to add javascript code is literally going to start trying to get people's passwords or stuff like that.

I'll be on chat for next hour if you wish to talk more there. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 20:51, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

rights[]

Cheers! It does seem you were right that boardedit does nothing. However, I noticed sysops cannot make people "forum admins". Is this temporary for now, or will it be added by Wikia?

If possible, may you come on the wiki chat so I can ask something in real time? --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 21:20, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Wikia generally tends to make mistakes when giving the rights. Similar happened on TES Mods wiki (I'm a sysop there) when I asked for a patroller group to be made, along with updates to rollback and sysop).

Also, since I'm the only forumadmin atm, will the overall decision for who gets it be my call, similarly like how becoming sysop is your call?

Also, last note: I'm guessing you don't want to come on Special:Chat? --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 21:48, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

What I was referring to is that, overall, even if the whole community says X should be Y, it's still your call whether to give Y to X (in this case Y = sysop, X = a user up for consideration).

Since most sysops are not going to be focusing on forums, whereas I will be, I will have more of an idea of who is more suitable for being Forum Admin (and by extension, Forum Mod) than most people, which is why I said what I did.

There's no point in people having the same tools as myself (forumadmin) if

1. I don't see them doing much forum admin stuff
2. They've not been a forum mod at any point
3. I don't have enough trust in them not to abuse the tools

Does that make somewhat sense now?

Also, on that note, I should point out that the only thing that I am missing in terms of tools for the forums is the ability to highlight threads, which I am going to assume comes from an actual right, as you can't highlight wall posts.

Regarding chat: that is understandable, but I find it easier to communicate with the chat than talkpages as of late. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 22:19, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

That's fine. Highlighting is not a major thing: in fact, it's positively minor, as very few threads would be highlighted anyway :P

Two things I might as well ask: I understand that I have block tools for the forums. What happens in cases where I'm seeing obvious vandalism in mainspace and there are no sysops online? In cases like that, is it ok for me to use block as a temporary probationary measure? Same in cases where a user is deliberately violating mainspace policies and there aren't sysops online to deal with the issue and a user in such cases has been given a lot of warnings already about said policy violations?

Also, I looked back on the RfA for myself and noticed many users made claims that I did not edit the mainspace very much. I'll just drop this link to my mainspace contributions which make the claims of "not much mainspace" activity look weak and unfounded. While I agree I don't edit "every single day", I do edit very regularly within the mainspace, despite claims that forum activity is more important to me than the rest of the site.

Obviously changes nothing, but just thought I'd put this here as a note of interest. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 09:47, October 28, 2014 (UTC)

Alright. If, however, sysops aren't showing interest in an issue and are ignoring requests to get involved, can I give short probationary blocks? So as to avoid abusing the tools, I'm probably going to only block for 3 days maximum, to act as short probation blocks. In the case of blocking when nobody is around, it'll only be for a day max so that a sysop can see the block and check if it's valid.

One other thing: User:Snapper2's page is against Userpage policy. I pointed this out to TU3, who did delete the page. However, Snapper chose to recreate the page with virtually the same content that got it deleted in the first place, essentially trolling and wilfully breaking policy he is meant to be enforcing. I'd be appreciative if you could step in and point this out and delete his userpage again, requesting he actually follow the policy like every other user here. Thanks. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 22:35, October 28, 2014 (UTC)

I also have another question to ask: will there be a later update to the forumadmin flag, where users with said flag can grant and revoke the forummod flag? It would make a lot of sense for such users to have this particular right, but I can understand if you don't want it that way just now. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 09:03, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

I understand I'm overthinking it, but I want to ensure I don't end up being called out for supposedly "abusing" block tools, even when I'm using it legitimately. A fair few people on here seem to like to find reasons to get on my case unnecessarily, even when I'm doing things to help out the wiki.

I saw the highlight thing, I've already tried it out on a chapter discussion thread in the forums. :P

And in regards to userpages, the policy itself has only just re-iterated the original policy. I just don't think it's fair we enforce the userpage policy on everyone else, but Snapper just somehow gets to have a userpage that has no relevance to users as an editor. Considering TheUltimate3 deleted the userpage, citing the policy, Snapper proceeded to recreate it with no difference, essentially wilfully violating the policy. Is this someone that should be a sysop?

No offence to Snapper, but these days, I don't see him doing anything except complaining and going against policy quite a lot. This isn't someone that should be a sysop in my opinion, especially as other users I've spoken to agree that his userpage is against policy. I've had half a mind to tag it for deletion, but refrained from doing so for being called stupid or rude. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 21:08, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Question[]

According to what I have heard from other rollbacks and sysops, users who are not moderators shouldn't be allowed to have the ability to remove others' posts. Yet they do anyway. I've heard that's a bug that Wikia is trying to fix so that only users with the rights of moderators and admins can remove and edit others' posts. Do you have any idea of the progress on that? Many thanks. :) • WindStar7125 _[Mod] 21:51, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Re: forum[]

I understand that I don't get to make decisions like that, but I had already discussed with many users before I ever got the flag and it was agreed by quite a lot of users to split up the boards, including other forum moderators and a sysop. So I didn't feel that making a discussion just to hear the exact same messages being posted was productive and was really a waste of time.

And I closed the announcement since it wasn't really something that needed discussion. Most announcement threads go off topic quite easily by users just making useless posts with no regard to the topic at hand. If a user wanted to raise an issue about the topic (which I couldn't see any chance of happening, since I don't see any complaints right now), they could let me know and I'd open the thread. However, since it was an urgent issue with the forums, I felt it necessary to simply split up the boards as soon as possible so that we could see what topics we were dealing with, but future issues will be discussed

You need to understand, however, that most of the forum community aren't interested in discussions and will just support everything that is made and most of the mainspace community aren't interested in the forums anyway, so a discussion would be quite redundant. In my opinion, with this forum community, I would prefer just to make changes since I have been trusted with these tools to make changes to the forums and I think a lot of the forum community can trust me to make the right judgement call.

Also, no offence, but "Forum Operator" will make no sense to many users and it will be just be confusing to people. Forum Admin makes a lot more sense to the community and will make it more likely people will actually ask me for assistance. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 08:49, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

^^^You sure about that Sajuuk? Remember, Admin = Sysop. Forum Admin would = Forum Sysop, and that would confuse a lot of users. Instead of being a System Operator, you're a Forum Operator. A For-op, if you will (yeah, not the same ring to it as "sysop," but whatever). • WindStar7125 _[Mod] 03:01, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Chat[]

I know you aren't a very keen advocate of chat, but I was hoping we could have a quick discussion about something. It is more an opinion discussion I wish to have and it would be easier to have that discussion on chat, than a talkpage. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 15:31, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Special:Forms[]

Hi, Dantman

I wanted to do with you if you can bring the Special:Forms for wiki PT-BR? --Shodai Tsuchi (talk) 12:42 (in Brazil), November 20, 2014 (UTC)

Dantman can't enable it and even if he could, he wouldn't because it's not requestable. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 14:45, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

re: unused templates[]

I noticed you kept some of the templates I had tagged (eg Template:CommonFix, Template:No episode no). I tagged them as unused because Special:WhatLinksHere never indicated that they were being used. I didn't just tag them because I didn't think they were linked, I made sure to check they were not linked before I actually tagged them. No episode no, in particular, is linked nowhere so it's pretty redundant (if it was being used in another template as you stated in the summary, WhatLinksHere would state that.) --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 12:59, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

Ah, wasn't aware it had some limitations. But is Licensors even used on any other page on the wiki? If it isn't, it should probably be deleted. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 13:14, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

Do any of the infoboxes at Infobox/Animanga get used anywhere on the wiki? I'm pretty sure they got replaced with Infobox/Naruto style infoboxes. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 13:20, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

Template Help for new Wikia[]

Hello, erm I'm starting a wikia that provides information on multiple shonen animanga, not just Naruto, but can I ask, how do you create templates as high quality as the ones for the characters on this wikia? --TheShonenOtaku (talk) 00:06, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

IMDb[]

Hey! I saw that you were admin at the IMDb wiki. I was wondering if you could promote me too? Their currently isn't any active admins and i'd like to fix it up a bit with colors and wordmarks and all. Tysonjackson (talk) 20:42, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

re: Simant[]

Hey Dantman. I have no idea if you are still active on the wiki, but I would like to discuss Simant. He seems to have vanished completely from the wiki and does not log into it anymore. Considering that UltimateSupreme seems to satisfy our coding requirements, what should be done with Simant? I know he is a great coder himself and helped with a majority of our infoboxes here, but if he's not active then it might be better that his sysop flag be removed (via consensus in a discussion/vote). Please reply with your thoughts, thank you. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 17:58, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

Chat[]

Seeing as you are on wiki, you able to come on chat? Understandable if you can't, but just wanted to quickly ask you something. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 22:46, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

The thread on WindStar7125's RfA to Forum Op is being littered in abusive, intimidating and bogus posts. I have also blocked a sockpuppet that was made to skew the opinions of the community. I would advise watching it carefully as it looks like people are simply bringing in personal biases against the candidate, instead of giving legitimate reasonings. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 13:59, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Profanity filter[]

Ok, thanks for your help. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:12, December 4, 2014 (UTC)

HELP pls ;_; infobox matter[]

i do not know how to do infobox , like for naruto uzumaki. --Akaisei14 (talk) 14:56, December 4, 2014 (UTC)Akasei14

I'll answer him, Dantman.--JOA20 15:02, December 4, 2014 (UTC)

WEN ? , joa, smw semantic forms , templates, i have mind f++ right now and i dunno about something (installations, computer prpts, ..) i dunno how 2 do form character, whatis that program one from nfanon said nor how named (maybe was talking about smw or sf) , infobox characters the alternative is hard, making learn try to do infobox templates ibchar, really unknow how form\character , porcodio se non sò..

ID LIKE to be indipendent, but, right now, i cant

*cough* *cough* *wheeze*[]

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:145502

Re: Naruto Storm character art[]

Yes and no. The color tint isn't used during gameplay, but it's used for the character select images, which are also distributed as hi-resolution art assets in official press kits. When distributed in press kits (in .PSD format), the file contains three layers: one with the art asset using the original anime coloring, a color balance layer with the yellowed color shift, and a solid white background. However, disabling the color shift and background layers gives you a clean, transparent image with an anime accurate colorscheme and a smaller filesize.

It's not an especially important or pressing issue, but considering that these particular assets are used rather extensively on the wiki in the appearance sections, I thought that it might be worthwhile to take the extra step of disabling the color shift and BG layer when outputting the images when uploading them in the future. FF-Suzaku (talk) 05:34, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

Erm...[]

You really need to do something with this, there's a clear support for WindStar7125 to become a forum op and the wiki is sorta expecting him to be promoted... --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 19:37, December 23, 2014 (UTC)

Link interwiki[]

I really like this wiki, including my SVG's tasks, but my wiki every was the pt-br link interwiki here and a few months ago has been replaced by another wiki that even had part of the development here. Please you can correct it? Because this discourages me to continue contributing here... → Rafael Uchiha _[Mod] 03:57, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

^No worries, Dantman, it's all good. It's fixed.
~•WS7125_[Mod] 04:14, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

re: emails[]

Hi Dan. Just posting here to let you know I sent you an email that needs a somewhat urgent response. Hopefully you can reply to it when you can. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{Talk Page | Contribs | Channel} 23:41, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

re: Mohamed adhel block[]

Previously, Snapper2 blocked a user for one year when a user made one single move page vandalism edit. I disputed that block but it was never removed or reduced in length, despite the fact it was nothing more than drive by vandalism.

In this case, the user moved Shizune to a fanon name and back multiple times. I felt that, because this was repetitive behaviour (and I was the only user online at the time), I felt it necessary to inform the user not to do it and then blocked for a week (I could have blocked longer, but I was being lenient). I'll admit I should not have removed their tp rights, but he had removed my message completely which was, in the context, vandalism as well.

In recent months, the number of sysops on the wiki has vastly decreased and I have found myself the only user with block tools online a lot of the time, so it feels as though most of these menial things are having to be handled by myself, despite the fact that this is not what I'm signed up for.

To expand on this, Snapper only really comes on once a week, TU3 is only usually available during work day hours, UtimateSupreme is generally very busy and only available randomly and Omni barely shows up anymore. This basically leaves the wiki to only a very small number of people, 95% of the time it generally falls to me to deal with vandals who are appearing frequently when only I'm online...

I hope this helps... --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 01:18, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Noted, however I think it's completely pointless that I have the block tools and I can't do anything. Honestly, all the "disruptive" users have been taken care of or they only longer come to this wiki, so there's no reason for forum op's to be able to block any further anyway. Also, sysop requests page is useless and no sysop actually "cares" to do anything until many hours later. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 10:10, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Slight correction, I am available at all hours except past 10pm EST. And you did call me out the last time I actually did handled requests I found on the sysop page.--TheUltimate3 ^(talk) 10:21, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Corrected then, however we both know that we don't see "eye-to-eye" about anything on the wiki. @Dan: If you can, join chatbox.... --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 10:23, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Fine... I would have no objection to it being recorded if it is necessary to leave a trail :/ --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 10:30, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Copy/paste? lol, or we could just use IRC or some other recordable system if that would be appropriate. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 10:35, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, have fun doing whatever it is you do. :P --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 10:39, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Noted. It's for those reasons that we need more forum moderators and it would be a lot better if I didn't have to ask sysops to grant that flag either. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 11:16, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

Founder[]

Are you founder of this narutopedia? Sasuke79 (talk) 10:11, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Yes he is.--TheUltimate3 ^(talk) 10:21, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Moderators[]

Dantman, I'm not sure if you are aware, but the Wikia Forums and Message Wall features have been completely updated with a new set of permissions. The new rights are listed here. As a result, can you contact Wikia to update the Forum Operator group to include the new rights? However, I am not yet sure of the moderator group because it includes "notifyeveryone" (currently a sysop and forum op right) and "wallremove" (this may just be the standard remove this thread and not the "walladmindelete"). Thanks for reading. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 13:41, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Noted. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 11:16, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Me and WindStar were talking on chat a couple days ago and were wondering if you could contact Wikia to add the walladmindelete right to the Forum Operators group? This would give forum op's the ability to completely delete a thread from view, but I do not know if that particular right also requires the general "deletepages" right for mainspace. If you could, please look into this further, thanks. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 10:19, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

Hey, just thought you should know that I have worked out what editwallarchivedpages does now. When the message walls feature is activated, the current text on a user talkpage is placed in an archive. That user right basically controls who can edit that archive, much the same way we have forumoldedit to control who can edit the old wiki-style forums when we enabled the forum module. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 16:15, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor[]

I deem you a traitor for using Wikia's abomination of a Visual Editor! Get back to using Source ;) --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 01:16, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

Well, he is right. Visual Editor is screwy and does mess things up. Look at this for example.

-- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 01:22, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

I know what VE it is. But VE on Wikia is very buggy and unfit for use. Particularly on this wiki, it will just do massive page blanks for no reason, or move interlanguage links around for no reason either. The generic Source Editor is massively better, especially for this wiki. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 01:24, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

Attempts to reproduce issues and report them would be nice. Corruption to content is not random or reasonless, it never has been. FCKEditor's and Wikia's RTE screw ups were for known reasons and we hated them because we knew those reasons were baked into the foundation of how they worked and could never be fixed. VisualEditor is fundamentally completely different and doesn't have those fundamental flaws. If it's corrupting things then it's something that can actually be fixed. ~ Daniel Friesen ^{(DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk ⁝ Animanga Talk)} 01:44, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

Location/Village infoboxes[]

Hey I just started a discussion of a possibility to integrate infoboxes for locations and or villages and I was wondering what you think of it. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 20:37, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re: You and SuperSajuuk[]

I'm usually not even in the chat, but if someone constantly hits back at me whenever and whereever I say something, I'm not going to keep silent. It's nearly impossible for me to post anything without getting a reminder of SuperSajuuk that what I posted is wrong or, even better, that I'm abusing my rights/tools. From my point of view, I'm just doing what I understand to be a sysop's job, so when I mention that job, it's not about abusing it, but using it as a legitimate reason for my doing. I would never run around shoving it in everyone's face, that much should be obvious.
Furthermore, if you and the other sysops are asked to deal with this, then why didn't you answer my email? And why is there no public discussion about it? SuperSajuuk and the others said that the whole wiki is against me and that I'll be demoted soon enough, so why is there no thread about me? My answer: Because it's a put-up affair (or whatever you call it) by these people to get me demoted. They know that I would never lose my sysop status if they created a thread, so they use everything they can find against me, to make me publically seem like a prick. Or how to you explain answers like this on posts like this? Even if what I say is in no way wrong, they make it seem as if.
So yeah, that's all there is to it. If you feel like removing my sysop status or banning me from the wikia, go ahead. I told SuperSajuuk that I'm not bound to this wiki and I can only tell you the same. I care way too little to constantly be put up with this shit. And if you would ask other sysops, I believe they would whole-heartedly agree. I'm not the only one who's fed up with SuperSajuuk's antics, I'm just the only one who speaks out against it. • Seelentau 愛 ^議 13:24, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Well, to me, it is a job. I act in the interest of the wiki when I act as a sysop. As I probably mentioned a thousand times by now, I have much experience in that position and I came into the wiki with that experienced mindset. It's only natural that there will be conflicts every now and then, because my views and ways are obviously different than what this wiki is used to. What I just don't understand is why some people have to work behind my back against me because of that. It should be obvious that if someone has a problem with me, they can come to me and talk to me about it. Instead I hear that people go to SuperSajuuk or other guys and complain to them about me. And as I heard from others, SuperSajuuk himself asks people to come to the chat just to ridicule me there, telling them what a prick I am. All instead of just talking to me on a professional level.

From my point of view, the situation isn't bad. Or at least, not to me. I'm not throwing insults at anyone as long as they don't anger me and I'm still open for constructive criticism. I can till be argued with, I just detest the current ways of SuperSajuuk. His personal vendetta against me is his (and probably your) problem, not mine. I just react accordingly. • Seelentau 愛 ^議 15:41, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Block on JustaNobody[]

I would like you to look into the block made by Snapper2 on the user JustaNobody. I don't believe that the user has actively harmed the wiki and has made good faith edits, yet Snapper has basically made a threat to JustaNobody that he will be blocked for 6 months if he makes even a single edit towards an article. I'm not going to get involved in telling Snapper2 that the block is unreasonable and basically goes against all general wiki principles that editors make good faith edits to improve the wiki: JustaNobody felt the edits were needed, and I definitely don't see how a block will change anything, nor is making threats. Thank you. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 21:09, February 15, 2015 (UTC)

No analogies are needed. I just felt that the user was being persecuted just because they were trying to improve the wiki (everyone has their own way of thinking about how to improve the wiki, they just felt that their edits were meant to make the article better). Maybe the user felt that when they were making the edits, they took into consideration their previous warnings. Sometimes I have felt certain users deliberately just revert edits they don't want to read even though they may be valid. Anyway, thank you for looking into it. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 09:18, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

Soul Eater wiki[]

I remember you being the admin back when I made a few edits there in 2011, and I'm having a bit of trouble with a current admin whose not really explaining why my edits are wrong beyond "that's the way we've been doing other pages since 2013". I'm not at all asking for you to join in an argument, especially since it looks like a lost cause, but more asking to satisfy curiosity: could you explain (here is fine), what is the reasoning beyond the policies cited here that I was apparently violating? It sounds like the current admins are trying to just copy the formatting used back when you were in charge, and I really just want an explanation for why the formatting is that way.{{SUBST:KrytenKoroSig}} 20:11, May 6, 2015 (UTC)

The admin has helped me understand that I am able to suggest changes to this format, so basically, before I try and start a forum advocating change, I want to know what the rationale for the following formats was:

• Using "also known as" instead of "also translated as".
• Apparent category redundancy between stuff like "World", "Race", "Soul Eater", "Anime", and "Manga" (ex. the Demon article).

Once I know the rationale, I can explain a list of pros and cons to the community to demonstrate why my suggestion is preferable.{{SUBST:KrytenKoroSig}} 01:23, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

CreditsTable[]

What is this? Is it related to this or...? ★WindStar7125 22:55, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

Hey Dan! Yea I tried pasting my copied work onto the Module:CreditsTable/names (you know to add to the list of Seiyū actors) but it wouldn't let me. --Rai 水 (talk) 03:35, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Truth is I'm not even sure if I'm entering it right. I saw that it was going by alphabetical order so I just prssed enter which added an extra line skip and number, and I tried to place my copied names in between the alphabet of names it fit in but obviously it didn't work. Is it a specific way to enter it or...? --Rai 水 (talk) 03:46, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Yup thats what I was doing. I manually was writing down the format structure but my question is do I enter the data from the box part that has the clear part on it or...? --Rai 水 (talk) 03:56, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Okay so what I was doing is right. Now that I confirmed that I was putting the data in the right place, the only problem I'm having then is as I said before, it won't let me paste. --Rai 水 (talk) 04:03, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Hey, so I implemented the {{CreditsTable}} on the latest episode page and it looks good. One issue though is that, sometimes, unnamed shinobi appear in an episode and this causes a redlink to appear. In many cases, the unnamed shinobi have multiple VA's. How do we want to go about this particular issue? Popups or redirects? --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 12:06, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, awesome! Shakhmoot will be happy, as he was asking about those. If we could put in something to kill the link if only [] style is present, it would be useful for those un-named shinobi. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 13:17, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Great! We should really make more use of LUA for things like this: what other templates could be converted into lua? Am thinking the various policy notice messages could be lua'fied. ;) --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 13:29, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Might wanna start with {{SemanticInputParser}} then. The infoboxes are just built using it--~UltimateSupreme 14:33, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Is it possible that the new creditstable could have obvious defaults? Characters such as Naruto and Sakura are never going to have a voice actor change, so it would be better for those to be hardcoded in some way, so that you only need to write "Naruto Uzumaki" to get the full table row. Not sure if it's possible though, but I'll let you work out some solution ;) --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 17:14, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

double post script[]

Hey, thanks for jumping into that discussion for the credits table! I did notice that you've lowered the amount of time a user needs to wait before they can post again, if they're the latest poster. What number was it changed to? We were thinking that a couple of days is better, since people don't really need to wait too long to get a reply from another user. Of course, we could place in an exception list so that certain users don't need to worry about the script (sysops and forum ops), but I don't know whether it'd be possible. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 09:33, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

30 minutes seems suitable. Of course, if users begin to abuse it, we can just raise the limit again. Also, not everyone makes use of email notifications to check threads, instead opting to use the bell for checking new posts. ;) --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 10:01, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately, 30 mins isn't suitable. There is a bug with Wikia's time server settings, where it never applies any offset, which means that any timestamps on posts don't apply the offset and result in the notice never applying. For this, we need to set the expiry to at least 1 day, or the notice will not fire (which it doesn't for me, since there's an hour gap between the "real" time and the "supposed" time on the posts. So it needs to be 24 hours, no less or the scripts don't work. :/ --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 10:56, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Possible, but I don't know what timezone Wikia uses for the timestamp on posts (which is where part of the script gets its time capture information from to determine if a double post is allowed if time expired). --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 11:02, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, that's cool. Is there a CDN version of the moment.js script that could be imported? --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 11:34, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Chat?[]

Hey Dan. Just wondered if you could hop onto chat for 5 mins or so. Only a minor thing though. :) --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 19:40, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe? Only for a minute or two. :) --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 11:13, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Re: CreditsTable (IMDB)[]

Yea I noticed that the link of imdb didn't bring you straight to voice actor, but I was trying to give proper evidence as imdb is our primary source for credits not necessarily Wikipedia which doesn't have some of the vpice actors as opposed to imdb which seemingly have all if not most. I mean its not like they wouldn't find the voice actor in the list, it seemingly would be the first one but I don't if there is a way to make the link go straight to the page itself. I'm not that experienced when it comes to wiki tools. --Rai 水 (talk) 03:51, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

If possible, the ANN (Anime News Network) website is the more trustworthy than Imdb for the voice actors, I mainly got their names from there. But seems the problem will be the same. —Shakhmoot _(Talk) 07:47, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in, but this is my two cents: I edit on a different wiki that used Imdb as a source for VAs, too. Unfortunately, we later learned that the info presented on the site was entirely wrong, and that wiki created a rule that we should never use it again. Imdb can be edited by anyone, too. ANN, a site I also used for info, is actually a lot more reliable since it's an official news site.--NinjaSheik 18:36, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

tranclan[]

There, I made a CT for removing TranClan's crat flag. Pls join chat --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^{talk | contribs | Channel} 10:42, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Block settings[]

If a user creates an account with the single mindset to insert bullshit into articles, I don't believe that telling them to stop that does anything. If he were to be swayed by that, he wouldn't have created that account in the first place. The situation (or thought) [I'm going to create an account and spam the wiki. Oh, they're telling me to stop. Okay, I better stop then.] won't come into existence with these guys. Hence my infinite blocks on vandals. • Seelentau 愛 ^議 11:13, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Which while super valid and logical should still be tempered with the expectation that a 2 week ban will give the person in question to calm down and either contribute to the wiki normally when the block is lifted or never return. That being said, a vandal who is replacing an entire article with obscene ascii art should be insta-banned forever. Different levels of vandalism requires different ways of handling it. And that is TheUltimate3's contribution to this.--TheUltimate3 ^(talk) 11:17, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Gonna abide by that in the future. Not that I believe in it, based on my experience, but well, this ain't my wiki. • Seelentau 愛 ^議 11:19, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Also there's another relevant note the block policy has has put into it. A number of these 1-time vandals you feel like infinite blocking right away never come back anyways. Having an active block for them ends up being pointless since there's no-one to stop from coming back. ~ Daniel Friesen ^{(DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk ⁝ Animanga Talk)} 11:23, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

private discussion[]

I don't know how often you check your talkpage, but there's a matter I'd like to discuss with you in private. If private chat isn't suitable, let me know and I'll discuss via emails instead. It's something I'd like to get sorted out this weekend if possible. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^tce 20:24, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Emails it is then. --Sajuuk _[Mod] ^tce 09:14, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

I emailed you back a couple days ago, not heard a reply. Just wondering if you got that message?

Also, might want to look into this. --Sajuuk _[Mod] 13:18, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

Chat Policy[]

Hello Dantman. Not to bother you, but I decided to bring your attention to something, and maybe to others if they see this and read it. SuperSajuuk has been abusing his chat moderator rights and ignoring the Chat policy, going as far as admitting that he doesn't even follow them most of the time. Not only does he spam emotes and allows others to do it, but he also brings about raging discussions about several Sysops in the chat, talking s_it about them with his predatory behavior. Also, and this happened the moment I'm writing this, he feels that he shouldn't stop doing that and if I, or anyone else for that matter, don't like that he's being predatory, we should just leave the chat, even though the chat is free for anyone to use. Lastly, he allows (and does it himself) to discuss article-related changes in the chat, which is not allowed according to the policy. Not to be a bother, but could you maybe talk to him, his predatory behavior, not only in the chat, but overall, is getting pretty annoying.--Omojuze (talk) 12:23, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Omojuze, stop being butthurt. I'm not abusing my chat moderator rights, I use them as and when they're necessary. And as I've explained to you many times, chat policy is only there in the cases of extreme problems. It's not there to make moderators deal with every little issue that comes up.

I'm very close to just wiki-blocking you. I don't know what your problem is, but you have been trolling and acting like only your opinion matters. This is you just assuming that everyone is required to follow the absolute word and not the spirit of the policy. --Sajuuk _[Mod] 12:25, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

A policy only exists when it's needed and can be ignored if one sees fit. Whaaaa?--TheUltimate3 ^(talk) 12:29, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Then, why is Chat policy even here if you don't bother following it? It doesn't apply to you? And it's necessary to kick me out of chat just because you didn't like when I said to stop your predatory behavior? K.

And what... Only "MY" opinion matters. Sounds like someone else I know.. And I'm not sure where or when have I done that, but I can think of plenty of times when you did.--Omojuze (talk) 12:29, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Chat policy is not there for me to use every single time someone is breaking it. If someone used a couple of emotes, I'm not going to go after them asking them to stop. This philosophy is enforced on all wiki policies, not just chat. Chat is moderated on discretion of moderators, using a set of basic policies, rather than a bunch of do's and dont's that nobody will read and will cause users not to use chat.

And you acted inappropriately in chat, I kicked you because you were backseat moderating. Accusing moderators of things that aren't even true is not a wise move.

This complaint is based on the fact that you aren't getting your own way with particular talkpage discussions, as well as a personal issue you have with me. --Sajuuk _[Mod] 12:34, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

If you're not being disruptive and predatory when kicking me out then you should be green from all the lies. And I noted you that the Chat Policy is there for a reason. Why Windy follows it and you have the right not to?--Omojuze (talk) 12:40, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

And this Sysop hate in the chat just needs to stop. There, I said it. I hit the final straw. It stopped being funny weeks ago... And the funny thing is, it seems that only you enjoy it.--Omojuze (talk) 12:42, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Ok now thats enough. I am to blame for this, both of you take this back and forth to your own Talk Pages.--TheUltimate3 ^(talk) 12:45, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

It's not your call to determine why a policy is present. Policies are developed when new features are enabled: the policy has always been there based on issues that are liable to occur.

I don't like your implications. I use the chat as a fun place. I use my moderator tools as and when needed. I do not simply decide that I can't have fun because I'm a moderator. Moderators are humans as well and they're free to act as they want. We're not dictators, like you are trying to imply.

@TU3: I won't reply further to this. Dantman is smart enough to know what to do with this situation. He can email me if he wants to know more about it. --Sajuuk _[Mod] 12:46, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

How did I miss this? O.o ★WindStar7125 17:22, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Resume[]

This may sound like an odd question, but would putting "Wikia contributor" be good to put onto a resume for say grad school or job apps? I know you design so it's good for you but do you think it's good in general?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 01:57, July 3, 2015 (UTC)

Chat[]

I won't be returning. It's just pathetic that you let everyone else do whatever the hell they want and punish me for their own misdemeanours. I hear that QuakingStar even said something that is deeply offensive and insulting about me: I'm surprised you have let such a thing slide with no ban. No worries, you violated the chat policy by going to an instant ban. You are just biased and have no impartiality to the community and you are clearly turning the Narutopedia chat into a place where anyone can flock for constant private bashing of me. I won't be returning to either the chat or this trainwrecked wiki, congratulations for ruining the place. --SuperSajuuk (talk) 21:30, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

Edit[]

I edit the Reaper Death seal jutsu page and didnt save why—This unsigned comment was made by Night Fury X (talk • contribs) .

I'll answer this. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:12, August 22, 2015 (UTC)

what happened to my edit in dead demon consuming seal it didnt save—This unsigned comment was made by Night Fury X (talk • contribs) .

Read your talkpage. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 10:08, August 22, 2015 (UTC)

Template[]

Hi. Is it possible to add the chart template here like this, so we can make family trees? I wish to make a page about them, since the manga ended and there is the New Gen and all the "who is the parent?" thing. Narsha (talk) 20:02, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

This user asked me about this and I directed her to you. Is it possible you could give her your opinion on this? ★WindStar7125 22:13, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Highlighting Threads[]

Hey Dan, i was wondering why is it that Forum moderators don't have the ability to highlight threads? There's been a few times i would of liked to highlight the weekly episode discussion instead of waiting for somebody else to do it. So can i ask for that function to be given to the forum moderators or cant we be trusted? --Sarutobii2 (talk) 14:36, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

I've gotta disagree, its used at-least once a week which seems pretty regular and out of the 2 active forum mods, i'd imagine we'd be trusted enough to become Forum Operators if there was the need. Yes highlighting threads can be misused, but so can the other tools that forums mods have access to, and that never happens to my knowledge. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 04:07, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Fine then, looks like im gonna have to become a forum op or sysop if i ever want to highlight stuff. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 04:38, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Locked pages[]

Does ever check on pages that have been locked? Just curious, as I happened to look at the ( locked) article about the character Karin. I counted five misspelled words in the first paragraph, that is not even including made up words like "upholder" rather then "upheld". That same quality shows in the actual information, too. It describes her feelings about being forced to die slowly and painfully as a child as something she disapproved of….as if most people would be perfectly happy with that situation. You know kids read this stuff. If you are going to lock something, at least make sure it looks like it is written by folks with a second grade education or better. I mean I know everyone is busy….but there should be a bit of oversight about locking things. If it was open, I bet someone would have fixed it. Just a thought. —This unsigned comment was made by Lollipopfop (talk • contribs) on 16:23, September 26, 2015.

Tag Update[]

Hey there. I messaged UltimateSupreme, but he wasn't able to submit the JS page for review. If possible, can you update the forum mods/forum ops tags? NeedleJizo is a Forum Operator (not a mod) and there's a few other users who are forum moderators but don't have the tag.

Additionally relating to this, the chat now actually seems to be 100% dead. Obviously the chat should stick around, but I'm not really sure if there's any point in having 4 chat moderators. Wikia globally updated the rights for most of the groups so the chat mods can demote themselves, but from experience, people are unlikely to do that unless under extreme circumstances.

It might be a good idea to update those groups as well (along with all the other groups) to keep them "fresh", since there's a lot of users with user rights that don't actually do very much on the wiki (just the odd edit here and there, or maybe one edit per month and not reverting vandalism). Vandalism is not as bad as it has been and the little vandalism is reverted by those who aren't rollbacks.

Along with that, you may be aware that Wikia has created a user group called Content Moderators. It might be a good idea to consider making use of this group (it includes all of the rights of the current rollback group, plus the ability to delete and protect content (as well as undelete)).

Hope you are keeping well with everything. :) --SuperSajuuk (talk) 12:13, March 24, 2016 (UTC)

Need opinions[]

Thread:202127. As you are the de facto founder of the wiki (having adopted it from the true founder), I'd really like to hear from you about this, since it seems a few users are more interested in ignoring official sources in favour of their own personal translations. As far as I was aware, this wiki didn't favour a single source over others, and if it's fine to ignore Viz translations, then we should remove anything that came from Viz. --Sajuuk 15:19, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

Yo[]

Hey. I won't get into too much detail with that argument that is happening on Omojuze's user talkpage, but I should point out that he has a long history lately of derailing threads and making things very personal against users he does not like. For example, I recently opposed a thread that would get a bot to go through all the "Naruto based" chapter references and add the word "Naruto" back on (that had been removed based on a previous consensus) and I received abuse from two users, one of them being Omojuze. You can see that discussion here, though you've probably already seen the thread: Thread:205368. Like I said, I don't want to get involved with much of Omojuze's behaviour on the wiki, but just wanted to make you aware of that thread for similar reasonings. --Sajuuk 15:01, May 8, 2016 (UTC)

ugh...[]

I wrote a topic on forums in theories and speculations board and it was quite sizable... it took a while to write and when I pressed publish, the thread didn't get made and the contents got eaten... I tried to hit back but it didn't work... consequently I was redirected to this page http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Undefined ... --Elve _[Mod] ^{Talk Page|Contribs} 14:55, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

A poke[]

Hey, I emailed you recently, but not sure if you saw the message. You probably did, but just posting this to remind about that email. --Sajuuk 16:47, May 26, 2016 (UTC)

Hello[]

Hey, I'm Meshack from the Dragon Ball Wiki. I was sent by New World God from the Dragon Universe Wiki, an alternate Dragon Ball wiki, to contact you about the problems with the Dragon Ball Wiki. First off, there're problems with the administration. Neffyarious doesn't consult any other user when combining sections or doing anything else. For example, he combined Super Saiyan Full Power with Super Saiyan but everyone insisted that both should stay separate. He would also make pages that is taken out of context like "Furious Mutation". The page has been removed but he would make pages that are taken out of context. Another is Chou Super Saiyan. Cho Super Saiyan is no a real thing but he claims that Cho Super Saiyan is Super Saiyan with the God power but that hasn't been said anywhere in the series but he claims it does. Another admin issue is, 10X Kamehameha. He doesn't want the wiki to change. He wants the wiki to cater towards the the casual fans or the 90's kids that know nothing else about Dragon Ball but the original FUNimation dub. He will not adjust to even the DBZ Kai dub. For example, he insists that Goku's page should stay Goku because he is commonly known as just Goku, even know Son Goku is said in the Kai dub. I get that but Kai is an english dub and Son Goku is said and it is consistent with the other versions of Dragon Ball. I personally think, and other agree with me too, that the Dragon Ball wiki sucks off FUNimation a lot and it needs to stop. I think that the wiki should be similar to the One Piece wiki, that it uses the actual character name, not using any titles, and has the funimation/viz/harmony gold/etc. in the infobox. But there are many more problems, regarding canon, consistency, and other things. I want to know if you could help me with this plan and maybe grant me admin status. Currently, I am banned from the DB Wiki and I want to know if you could emove the block and mak me admin. To contact me back, please message me on the Dragon World Wiki or the Dragon Universe Wiki Meshack (talk) 20:26, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

But you are still an admin on the wiki Meshack (talk) 00:38, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

Discussion[]

Your opinion would be most welcome in this thread. Given that you wrote the talkpage policy all those years ago, you are best placed to have an opinion on this matter. --Sajuuk 10:14, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

Test account[]

You might want to consider de-sysopping your test account, so that it doesn't needlessly show up on the Special:Community list, which could result in users erroneously sending the test account a message for help, which is obviously not going to be read as it's not a real sysop. The same might need to be applied to obviously inactive sysops, because they'll cycle in the list of "admins" and are now targets for receiving pointless messages that they won't read. Just a suggestion though. --Sajuuk 21:30, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

No worries. Strangely, ShounenSuki doesn't get listed in the community page, neither do any of those unused sysop bot accounts, the only inactive sysop that appeared on the list was Simant. I believe Wikia already plans to fix the admin list thing though by making it not list those who haven't edited for over a year. --Sajuuk 23:09, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

On a note related to user rights: at some unknown point recently, Wikia basically undone nearly all of your custom user rights changes (like rollback being able to grant rollback to others, sysops being able to grant and revoke rollback), so now the only person who can grant a majority of the user rights is yourself. Sysops can now only give/revoke chat moderator and discussions moderator groups (the former being pointless since discussions moderator already includes that right).

I don't know whether contacting Wikia to fix that will work, since they've made it clear fairly recently (as in, a few months ago) that they don't want custom rights changes any more (hence why the custom forum operator/moderator groups you requested to be added are now gone) and want local sysops/bureaucrats to make use of the groups provided (such as Content Moderator). --Sajuuk 23:15, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

Just seen AsianReaper's thread and the outcome, which seems suitable, but just wanted to remind of the key point above, whereby sysops can only grant/revoke the chat mod/discussion mod flags now. TBH, I fully expect Wikia to get rid of the rollback group entirely, because they've already replaced it with the Content Moderators group, and the rollback flag is mostly redundant because of a user script that simulates that behaviour. --Sajuuk 12:05, July 11, 2016 (UTC)

Just in case the point about CoMods was missed, I'm bumping this. --Sajuuk 12:35, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

VSTF[]

Recently, some users posted spam/pornographic content on the wiki. As with any kind of spam/pornographic content posted on wiki's here at Wikia, I take the appropriate action which is not to report such things to local sysops, but to the VSTF, due to them having the tools to delete the spam/pornographic content quickly and global block the user, so the user cannot use the service.

For some reason, Seelentau believes he is above the VSTF and has the right to enforce TOU violations on this wiki and appears to be uninterested in educating himself about the VSTF's purpose. In both cases, he infinite blocked for no reason when I had already reported such violations to VSTF (and in one instance, he blocked a user 40 minutes after their account was already global'd by the VSTF). He also seems to have an un-necessary habit of misusing infinite blocks to deal with new users who make a few bad edits and doesn't seem to care for the wiki's blocking policy, which states that people should not be immediately infinite blocked for a few bad edits.

Could you possibly step in and educate Seelentau on the point of reporting spam/pornographic content to VSTF and why he should not be taking it upon himself to deal with users who register simply to post spam/porn? Thanks! --Sajuuk 15:54, July 16, 2016 (UTC)

Rollback question[]

Yo. A user recently decided to step down as a rollback user as they were leaving the wiki. This made me look at the list of rollback users and noticed that we have a few rollbacks who don't really revert vandalism on a regular basis (or at all). Since only the user themselves (and yourself) can revoke the rollback flag now, I was wondering whether those that are inactive/don't really revert vandalism/don't move files should be removed? I'd ask a sysop, but sysops no longer have this ability to grant and revoke rollback now and it's certainly not my place to go around messaging inactive users asking them to remove their rollback flags. Thanks! --Sajuuk 18:32, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

True, that makes sense I guess. BTW: did you see my previous comments regarding a small dispute over a talkpage notice template and the Content Moderator rights? --Sajuuk 19:11, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

Dragon Ball[]

Hi Dantman, I have one question for you. Back in 2014, I used to edit your Dragon Ball Encyclopedia (dragonballenyclopedia.com), but I left the wiki. A week ago, I remembered that wiki, but I wasn't able to enter the site. Did you delete it, or site have another problems? Thanks. Supper Sasuke ^{(talk) | (contributions)} 11:49, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for answer, and nothing. I understand, but can you somehow enable the site? That was my first encyclopedia which I edited, and makes some memories to me, if you can't I understand surely. Supper Sasuke ^{(talk) | (contributions)} 12:18, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Thanks anyway. Greeting. Supper Sasuke ^{(talk) | (contributions)} 12:38, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

CoMods[]

It's true that it's not a rollback replacement (and I know what rights it has), but a large number of wiki's don't have the rollback group customised like this wiki does, which means most wiki's are encouraged to make use of comods. Plus, the rights that the rollback group actually has on this wiki are all included in comod anyway. My main question was whether you would use the CoMod group on the wiki, given Wikia's insistence on using their groups, rather than custom groups (I know that rollback is not a custom group, but as I mentioned earlier, it's possible they may get rid of the rollback group at some point in the future). (And before anyone starts complaining, I have zero interest in wanting rights above rollback) --Sajuuk 12:43, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

That's a fair comment, I just wondered your opinion, given that only you can grant comods (and also, you are now the only one who can give out rollback as well).

Although deletion and protections are common on the wiki these days (in respect to deleting files and protecting pages where users are edit warring, the latter of which happens a lot).

Also, given that JS goes through a review process as well, as well as the fact that nearly all of the MediaWiki messages are locked to edits, sysop rights aren't very dangerous any more either (ie edits must be submitted through a button on JS pages before the edit will be made live to the users). Saying that, blocking is a bit "overused" for rather minor offences as well... --Sajuuk 12:51, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

undefined[]

When I try to make a topic in theories and speculation board, I get this: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Undefined tried several times.--Elve _[Mod] ^{Talk Page|Contribs} 12:29, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

You aren't the first one to experience that bug Elve. A solution was never found and frankly, with the fact that Wikia plans to abolish Special:Forum anyway, there's no real priority to attempt a fix.

I do suspect that the error you get may be caused by tripping Abuse Filters (which doesn't generate valid warnings on the forums, or even any warning whatsoever) or a random glitch on the Wikia server. But as said, Wikia won't care to investigate it. --Sajuuk 13:26, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

So that's what Gemnist was referring to. And SnidgetGirl as well. And he's right, they won't bother to investigate it nor fix it. I had a problem even enabling the Special:Forum feature on another wiki that never used it (it kept leading to a different error). They told me they "couldn't find time" for a fix, then informed me of the new "Discussions" feature they are trying to introduce and implement. ★WindStar7125 15:45, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

I have been trying for months but the database dumps won't update in special:statistics. Can you please check? Thanks Analyst1996 (talk) 20:31, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

Is the Boruto series going to end to?--Erik.hoary (talk) 20:39, April 16, 2017 (UTC)Erik Hoary

Hello, Daniel! I read about the canon policy and it says that anime and movies fall under the category of A-canon while light novels fall under the category of C-canon. Does that make Blood Prison and Kahyo canon then? And does that also mean kakashi and kahyo ended up together? Bbbbbbbbbbon (talk) 05:00, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Spiff[]

Hi there! I wanted to reach out and see if you'd be interested in a wiki spiff? I'd really just like to add a character and video gallery along with a newsfeed and a mobile friendly pollsnacks poll. I'd also like to see if you'd be interested in activating discussions. They are super easy to use and can be used on mobile as well. Let me know if any of this sounds appealing as I'd love to work with you and help improve this wiki. Witnessme (talk) 14:53, May 17, 2017 (UTC)

Hello[]

Hello there, Dantman. I was just wondering if you can convert these infoboxes into portable infoboxes.

--SF12 (t - b - c) 11:57, September 1, 2017 (UTC)

Forums and Discussions?[]

Hey Dantman! I'm Jamie from FANDOM's Community Development team! Not sure if we never asked you guys if you are interested in turning on the Discussions feature for this community, and migrating the Threaded Forums across as well.

In case you are unaware of the feature, Discussions was introduced last year to help communities engage with users and fans. It lives in its own space on the wiki and allows users to interact with other members of the community. It is also mobile friendly and gives mobile users a chance to contribute and engage with the community, and possibly turn them into wiki editors as well. Discussions also links with our FANDOM Apps, which this community has and it allows app users to easily take part in Discussions as well. You can read more about Discussions here.

For more information on migrating forums to Discussions, you can check out this blog over on Community Central that explains everything in detail.

If you have some concerns, Discussions, and Forums can exist side-by-side in case you do not want to migrate just yet. However, eventually all Forums will be migrated over to Discussions and Forums will be sunsetted as a feature, so getting ahead of the curve is never a bad idea.

Feel free to have an open discussion with your community/admins about this, and I'm available for any questions you might have. Have a good one! Jamie (profile)•(talk) 21:05, November 14, 2017 (UTC)

So we could say no, but eventually the forums would be migrated discussions anyway.

Or say yes, but we lose the highlight feature for some time until discussions has it with more “versatile” features.

Either way, forums -> discussions. Interesting... ★WindStar7125 22:32, November 14, 2017 (UTC)

To be honest, the mods here have a hard enough time trying to keep the forums relevant. From all I've seen of "Discussions", it has a very limited feature set and has a huge amount of problems with low effort posts (aka shitposting).

If this wiki had a choice between either, it would probably want to keep with Forums until the longest time necessary before transitioning, mainly because new features have been enabled here in the past as part of tests/experiments and any feedback given by members here doesn't have much effect.

It would probably be better to make a forum thread and highlight to get more people's opinions. --Sajuuk 15:36, November 15, 2017 (UTC)

Just to clarify we do not need to migrate forums now, we would be happy to turn on discussions here and in the app and have them live side-by-side with forums. Jamie (profile)•(talk) 21:41, November 15, 2017 (UTC)

Just to tie this thread up, we're going to leave forums as they are and not turn on discussions at this time.Jamie (profile)•(talk) 19:01, January 23, 2018 (UTC)

Sharingan[]

Hey, Dantman, I have two Sharingan-related questions:

1. How does one wielding the Sharingan force their target(s) to reveal any information that they possess? Do they, like, make their target(s) reveal all of said information by simply making eye contact with them?

2. In what ways does Sasuke even use his Sharingan for distraction and interrogation? Are there any examples for when he's used his Sharingan in either of these ways? --Chris Urena (talk) 16:42, November 21, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome[]

Hi there, thanks for leaving a welcome message on my talk page. As I'm experienced with Wikipedia but I'm new here, is there a page that lists wiki-editing projects? I would like to join a project related to editing the anime's intro & outro song lyrics, if one exists. Garrettw87 (talk) 02:43, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

Also, if you don't mind, I would invite you to chime in on an issue surrounding an infobox I made today which, surprisingly, wasn't allowed.– Garrett W. {☎ ✍} 01:15, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the infobox explanation.

Your other point is well taken. I will try to do better in the future. Thank you.– Garrett W. {☎ ✍} 20:33, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

DVD Collection[]

Hi Dantman, just wondering why doesn't the Narutopedia include a page for the DVD Collection? -- 4th Six Paths (talk) 08:22, January 6, 2018 (UTC)

hey dantman,u say u r a web dev i know that this is off topic but could u teach me html and css Rogue maltron (talk) 11:30, February 5, 2018 (UTC)rogue maltron

hello dantman. very, very nice to meet. i did some research on wiki founders, so i decided on making a thread relating u, and the other original members of the naruto wiki. would u mind/like to give some input on said thread, and how the wiki came to be? that would be really cool. lol, we might even make a page about the wiki's history lol Lorenzo.r.2nd (talk) 03:09, April 3, 2018 (UTC) lorenzo.r.2nd

Kunoichi101[]

Hi Dantman; User Seelentau has blocked user Kunoichi101 for six months, for a single edit? An edit that wasn't vandalism or anything. This isn't the first time Seelentau has blocked this user for an unnecessary amount of time which was later shortened by another sysop who thought the block was puerile. This seems to be more a personal issue between the two users. I think the block should be shortened. Munchvtec (talk) 22:10, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. Munchvtec (talk) 23:58, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

Regarding ban of User:Kunoichi101[]

I usually don't ban long-standing editors for a single reason. With this user, the problem is that she constantly does things like that (removing content despite not knowing if it should be removed), especially when it comes to Japanese terms. Furthermore, she was banned more than once already, mostly for edits that did nothing to the article. So before you decide to unban someone, please check with the sysop that banned the person first, just to get both sides of the coin. • Seelentau 愛 ^議 01:31, April 20, 2018 (UTC)

Recommended Videos test[]

Hi Dantman. I wanted to give you a quick head's up that I just posted a forum thread about a new feature test here on Narutopedia. Let me know in that thread if you have any questions. Thanks! - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 19:28, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

RE:Bans[]

Acknowledged, I'll do my best to tighten the forums up. AsianReaper (talk) 03:25, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

thanks dant Lorenzo.r.2nd (talk) 02:00, June 18, 2018 (UTC) lorenzo.r.2nd.

Check[]

Can you do me a favor and check on what you think of my edit on its talkpage. Despite me fixing the issues that were addressed on the talkpage, it continued to get reverted by @Serk. --Rai 水 (talk) 21:57, July 26, 2018 (UTC)

Nevermind. I was brought some information that I was not aware about the Sakura Hiden novels, so it's fine now. --Rai 水 (talk) 00:46, July 27, 2018 (UTC)

Ok so i'm trying to fix a minor problem on a character in the Narutopedia and i don't know how to change the statues of the character or the gender, pls help me, thank you

Trying to join the[]

I tried to post on the Orochimaru conversation, but am getting error messages. Then I went to Elvenora's user page to post, and I got this message:

"An automated filter has identified this edit as potentially unconstructive. Your edit has matched a common abuse phrase or title. Profanity is a serious form of vandalism. If you don't stop you will be blocked from editing Narutopedia. If your creation is constructive, DO NOT PUBLISH; instead please report it to an administrator."

Elvenora's post on the Orochimaru conversation seemed particularly inflammatory, political, and entirely irrelevant to the subject of the wiki. Despite multiple claims that they "weren't trying to offend anybody", it definitely irks me that a moderator would see a conversation that has nothing to do with f******m, and use it as an opportunity to insert blatantly false political talking points and f******t bashing.

Especially since they seemed to acknowledge multiple times that the irrelevant diatribe had the potential to offend people.

I've used asterisks to mask words that probably caught the eye of the automatic filter as "unconstructive", which I'm guessing tags me as a new user, and not the mod.

Animalistic Hostperson (talk) 00:47, February 17, 2019 (UTC)

I apologize, gonna try to be nicer...--Elve _[Mod] ^{Talk Page|Contribs} 21:36, February 17, 2019 (UTC)

Kagura - Revolution 2[]

Is it okay if you fix the status of her life in this page? She did not die. She was defeated, but her life was spared, which means her status should be either "Unknown" or "Alive". Please fix it?

Fandom Search Bar[]

Hello. Wasn’t sure who to ask about this, so you’ve been chosen. I use the fandom app a lot for this wiki in particular, and I find the dark blue Fandom search bar to be needless & redundant. Do you know of a way I could hide it?--Mina ^{talk | contribs} 23:41, November 4, 2019 (UTC)

Hello! I was wondering if I can be an administrator for this wiki https://brick-simulator.fandom.com/wiki/Brick_Simulator_Wiki. This is for the game called Brick Simulator https://www.roblox.com/games/4969719864/UPDATE-V1-Brick-Simulator. I'm already an admin for one of their games https://space-experiment.fandom.com/wiki/Space_Experiment_Wiki so may I ask if I can be ad admin for this wiki too? :)

UCP assistance[]

Hello Dantman, with the UCP (new Wiki software) coming up soon, there's a possibility that some things may not function as intended once Narutopedia makes the migration. I just want to make sure you know that I'm here in case you need help, should this happen, & that I can answer any questions you might have about the UCP. Cheers.
-Ursuul (talk)

Discussions Sysop[]

Hello Dantman, I am an old forum moderator who's still active on the discord and in the Discussions Board. Right now, we have myself and @Ninja of War as Discussions Mods, with other moderators and sysops either inactive or unwilling to take part in the newer feature due to its less favoured interface.

As it stands, it can become difficult to block people since Discussions Mods do not have that power. We get it done by messaging the Global Discussions Moderators in discord for assistance, but they are only here temporarily.

With this in mind, I would like to be made a sysop with the sole purpose of helping to manage Discussions, We've talked with TheUltimate3 and he approves, but was unable to make the promotion himself. Thanks for reading, Squinty97 (talk) 02:58, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

No worries, I understand. Glad to know you're still around! Sorry for the confusion Squinty97 (talk) 18:04, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Greetings from Fandom[]

Hello Dantman. Given your recent inactivity Fandom was willing to promote a Bureaucrat selected by the community, via an RfA-style nomination on Project talk:Sysop. Do you intend to be active here as a Bureaucrat, or would you be open to promoting whoever "wins" on that talk page to Bureaucrat yourself? The hope here is that this wiki will have a regularly active Bureaucrat at all times, given its size. Alternatively, you could simply select a worthy Bureaucrat yourself & bypass the need for an RfA style nomination.
-Ursuul (talk) 23:23, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Understood, I'd greatly appreciate you handling the request then. We want to let the community run itself as much as possible, & only stepped in because you appeared unreachable at first. I wish you good luck with this nomination & with the creation of a new system of Admin/Bureaucrat appointment!
-Ursuul (talk) 01:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Greetings From Fandom's New Anime Community Manager[]

Hello!

My name is Lucas DeRuyter and I’m Fandom’s new Anime Community Manager. If I haven’t touched base before, I was a former member of the Anime Vertical and ComDev team before taking on this role in the Community Experience team. Going forward, you can reach out to me if you have any questions about the Fandom platform, need a hand with anything on this wiki, or if you just want to chat about Naruto. I read the Big Three religiously back in the day, and want to use my Naruto and Fandom knowledge to ensure that this wiki remains the best resource on the series.

Please let me know the best way to contact you and any other folks involved with this wiki when you have a chance. If you mostly use a Discord server or group chat, my handle is Lder#9923 and I would love to join those conversations. More than anything, I want to help this wiki be the best version of itself and make every Fandom user have a pleasant time while on our platform.

To that end, I’m currently spinning up a Fandom Anime Watch Party and Manga Book Club. If you have any questions about those efforts, please let me know and I’d love to hear your thoughts. I really am looking forward to helping this community grow and hope you’ll get in touch if you ever need anything from my end.

Thanks and have a great day!

Lder1995 (talk) 23:45, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Anime+Novel Tag[]

Greetings, a few users indicated that you were one of the users to update the SMW code templates. If a technique occurs in both the anime and novel, but not the manga does it deserve a special anime+novel tag? Or is the default non-mention adequate. As this seems to be the case with Suien's usage of the Takigakure Style: Watercutting Sword as a user warlic made mention of on Suien's Talk:Suien. Can a special novel+anime tag be made and how? Ninja Of War (talk) 14:02, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Implementing "Count" via DPL[]

Hiya Dantman! I wanted to ask if there was any way to limit the count of discussions based on the "Latest Discussions" category under the community portal. I'm not very experienced on using DPL for FANDOM/wikia pages, and was wondering if you had a solution to potentially create a discussions count limit of 5 in that column. Thanks!
-Ventillate { About Me | Message | My Work }
16:44, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Administration[]

Wanted to bring up the idea of appointing another admin for the Narutopedia. Since @Sarutobii2 and @Omnibender are essentially the only active admins on the wiki. And a wiki this large could use a few extra hands. As a thread mod, I'm not sure if it's my place to suggest these thing, but after Seel's departure even I can see that there's a lot of work for only two admins. I understand SnapperTo was previously an admin, Munchvtec was also a candidate at one point and were keen on joining again at a stage. I'd also recommend User:Ventillate as a candidate. Ninja Of War (talk) 13:39, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I will form the ad hoc sysops nominations on the Narutopedia_talk:Sysop_Requests rather. I feel discussions are distinctly separate at this stage from the wiki proper, as most users there only contribute to discussions. Also, if you don't mind, the mod team on the official discord would like to invite you discuss this in a private channel: https://discord.gg/pZM2TJH. Ninja Of War (talk) 20:37, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Switch to Modern Message Wall[]

Hello Dantman , can this wiki be switched to more modern Message Walls? Kireina Yume (talk) 19:42, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Clean up[]

Hello can you clean up Category:Candidates for Deletion. Kireina Yume (talk) 20:18, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Howdy! Greetings from your new Wiki Representative![]

Hello, Dantman! My name is Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin (Though you can absolutely call me "Fenn") and I am the new Wiki Representative for your community!

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If you ever need some help on the Wiki, or have something you need to speak with Fandom Staff about, feel free to reach out to me! The best way to contact me for a speedier response would be via Discord, my tag being "Legendary Super Saiyan Fennekin#1949", but you can always leave a message on my wall and I will work to respond to that as soon as possible! If you have any Discord Servers affiliated to the Wiki or Discord group chats for the admin/moderator team, feel free to lemme know! I'm excited to be able to assist your community!

Have a blessed day! Fenn (Talk) November 8, 2022, 9:36 PM (EST)