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Contested deletion

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This page should not be speedily deleted because... (It is a basic informational listing, with a one-sentence summary) --Danafifethomas (talk) 21:10, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 9 September 2018

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Consensus not to move, therefore, not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 19:22, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Gods and Kings: The Rise and Fall of Alexander McQueen and John GallianoGods and Kings (book) – Per WP:SUBTITLE, as only short subtitles may be used for disambiguation. 142.160.89.97 (talk) 00:43, 9 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 22:19, 17 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 21:00, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Hhkohh (talk) 01:01, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Hhkohh: How do you reconcile your position with our book-specific guideline, WP:SUBTITLE, which states:

Usually, a Wikipedia article on a book (or other medium, such as a movie, TV special or video game) does not include its subtitle in the Wikipedia page name, per WP:CONCISE. The only exception to that is short article titles, for disambiguation purposes.

142.160.89.97 (talk) 01:05, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
WP:SUBTITLE is not a policy, just a guideline, see also WP:COMMONNAME and other related policy and it says usually not always Hhkohh (talk) 09:47, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: I see no rule anywhere that "only short subtitles may be used for disambiguation". I see instead at WP:NCDAB that, where disambiguation is needed, natural disambiguation is the first choice. PamD 11:28, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@PamD: I see no rule anywhere that "only short subtitles may be used for disambiguation". Does the above quotation from WP:SUBTITLE not qualify? 142.160.89.97 (talk) 18:18, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Pam commented before your quote, so it would be interesting to see if that changes anything. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 18:57, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think she did, but it's certainly possible that she accidentally missed it. 142.160.89.97 (talk) 19:29, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I find the wording of that section confusing as it talks about "short titles" and this now appears to mean "short subtitles". If that interpretation is correct it would be useful for an example like this one under discussion to be included there to clarify. PamD 07:34, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SUBTITLE: Usually, a Wikipedia article on a book (or other medium, such as a movie, TV special or video game) does not include its subtitle in the Wikipedia page name, per WP:CONCISE. The only exception to that is short article titles, for disambiguation purposes.

@Randy Kryn:, there are other books, such as Gods and Kings, 1945 collection of six one-act plays by Lajos Bíró . In ictu oculi (talk) 10:34, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.