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There seems to be nothing on his chaning the calendar, whereas the wik article on April's Fools' Day refers toa this as a possible origin of AFD. Kdammers (talk) 23:41, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nostradamus?!

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According to the article

...the King and his mother set out from Fontainebleau on a tour... they visited Nostradamus, Carcassonne, Toulouse...

"Nostradamus" links to Michele de Nostredame. Firstly, it is strange to mention the astrologer and the names of cities in one sentence in this manner. Secondly, there should be some details on their encounter with Nostradamus. What was its purpose? What did Nostradamus tell them?

Top.Squark (talk) 11:34, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Bartholomew's Day

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Charles called Coligny his father, and by backing Coligny would assert his kingship and freedom from the rule of his mother Catherine de' Medici. The current account does not relate how Catherine bullied Charles that evening to consent to the killing of Coligny to complete her previously botched assassination attempt. A reference to Charles' complicity might better explain why he was subsequently upset, rather than merely a lunatic, as Catherine proposed. Leonie Frieda's cited biography gives ample reference to the actual course of events.1f2 (talk) 04:35, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Leonie Frieda's "cited biography" should not be used, since she is clearly not a reliable source. --Kansas Bear (talk) 05:54, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 March 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. – robertsky (talk) 21:48, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


– The French monarchs appear to be the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPICs for these name number combinations, compared to their Swedish counterparts. Looking at the amount of pageviews: [1] [2] the French monarchs seem to be the clear primary topics. Per WP:SOVEREIGN, Only use a territorial designation (e.g. country) when disambiguation is needed. UmbrellaTheLeef (talk) 12:45, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Military history has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:08, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject France has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:08, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose You haven't demonstrated that disambiguation is not needed per WP:SOVEREIGN. If I was interested in the Swedish monarch it is counter productive to me that the other monarch with that cardinal is now not indicated as such in its title. Moreover, for those interested in the French king, it is easier to know you have the correct article when it has what they are king of in the title.
More broadly, I don't know why it is now Wikipedia policy to make monarchs articles more confusing to navigate. sovietblobfish (talk) 16:59, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I have demonstrated that disambiguation is not needed. The English languge articles about the French monarchs consistently get far more pageviews than the articles about the Swedish monarchs, and as such they are the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and do not require disambiguation per WP:SOVEREIGN, just like Charles X and Charles III. Furthermore, the Swedish monarchs are more commonly known as "Karl" (or Carl) rather than Charles, whereas the French kings are only known as Charles.
Having Charles IX and Charles VIII as disambiguation pages makes the articles more confusing to navigate, as 9 out of 10 times, people looking for just "Charles VIII/IX" on English Wikipedia are looking for the French monarch. UmbrellaTheLeef (talk) 17:20, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To support my claim, here are the wikinav pages for Charles VIII/IX. [3] [4]. Most of the traffic goes to the French monarchs. UmbrellaTheLeef (talk) 17:28, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You have shown nothing of the sort. Walrasiad (talk) 21:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yet all those are French articles written in French history journals. Our audience is not French specialist scholars. It is English-speaking general readers. Walrasiad (talk) 15:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.