#indieweb 2023-10-01
2023-10-01 UTC
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capjamesg I haven't heard the phrase "needy tech" but I like it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37729095
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Loqi 🔔 notifications in the context of the IndieWeb refer to all forms and ways that an independent web site can receive a message indicating something of interest (server notifications), and display those messages (preferably in realtime) either in a list on a page, or pushed to one or more devices used by the owner of that site (client notifications) https://indieweb.org/alarm_fatigue
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[tantek] notification fatigue << "needy tech" usage: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37729095
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Loqi ok, I added ""needy tech" usage: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37729095" to a brand new "See Also" section of /notification_fatigue https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=89503&oldid=89502
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Hosting: IndieWeb Carnival October 2023 - Self Care and Routine" https://lifeofpablo.com/blog/indieweb-carnival-october-2023
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[tantek] yeah see the quoted numbers in https://indieweb.org/notification_fatigue#Articles
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[catgirlinspace] reminds me i need to figure out notifications to disable and such
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[catgirlinspace] tbh feel like i dont get many outside of youtube notifications cause theres some channels i like watching. probably can disable notifications for some of them though.
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[catgirlinspace] under what criteria is this considered important??
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[catgirlinspace] oh yeah i forgot discord dms. i allow those cause like, friends :3 and slack but this is the only slack im in...
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[catgirlinspace] only social media i use is fedi. and for some reason the firefish pwa doesnt send me notifications so i dont get any there lol
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[catgirlinspace] ive seen it, but the way the bridge works seems kinda weird with everything coming from IWDiscord and then having the username in angle brackets.
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[catgirlinspace] i should probably learn how to use a real irc client or something.
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capjamesg I like https://chat.sr.ht.
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[catgirlinspace] mhm, might look into it a bit. slack seems to work fine enough for now though...
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Loqi 💬 Internet Relay Chat (abbreviated IRC), in particular the #indieweb channels on the libera.chat network, is the primary community discussion forum for IndieWebCamp and anything about the IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/IRC
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gRegor I use Hexchat from https://indieweb.org/IRC#Clients
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fLaMEd Using Konversation myself, https://konversation.kde.org/
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sisoma I see there's a wiki page for a personal libary: https://indieweb.org/personal_library
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IWDiscord <sisoma#0>
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sisoma Am thinking about setting up a website, maybe just on my personal website, or maybe I'll make it into its own thing, where books can be rented. Doesn't need any fancy stuff, just contacting the owner.
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sisoma But is there any example of a website listing books people can rent?
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sisoma Books are meant to be read after all, not just sit on the shelf 😛
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sisoma Upon further wiki searching, I found this page on listings:
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sisoma https://indieweb.org/listing
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[tantek] sisoma, a while ago I started a "library of infinite loan", which I did discuss briefly in a session at IWC Austin 2020: https://indieweb.org/2020/Austin/reading
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sisoma Ooh interesting, will take a look!
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