Is the Joker Dead?[]
It is possible he is but check out this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipVT4OSmZB4&feature=related
BatmanGeek220 (talk) 08:37, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
sorry pal, but they have confirmed he is dead and showed the body being cremated in the End Game comics VinidaMatta2 22:41, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
Joker Delusions (B:A Origins)[]
Can anyone offer any insight into the strange delusions Joker has seeing Batman as some kind of monster? As far as my knowledge of the Joker goes I have never seen him to be just straight delusional or have hallucinations but he was crammed full of them in Origins. Ombra Lupo (talk) 20:51, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
I'd say it's just how the Joker mentally pictures Batman. I don't know why, because he's obviously not afraid of him. All he thinks is that it's fate that he and Batman met. He thinks Batman is the only person on earth who can relate to him, and the Joker himself KNOWS that Joker is a monster, he even said he deserves death, so maybe he pictures Batman as a monster because he can relate to him? Plus, the AO Joker is obviously heavily based of the Killing Joke one, and the writer of the novel said Batman and the Joker are mentally identical. So, I'd say the Joker mentally pictures Batman the way he pictures himself: a monster.
Edit: To further prove that, the scene where Joker is thinking of when he fell into the vat of chemicals, he sees how his reflection is exactly like Monster Batman, so he LITERALLY sees himself as the monster he is, The Batman. Fireworks888 (talk)
Easter Eggs[]
Batman: Arkham Origins[]
Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate[]
Batman: Arkham Asylum[]
Batman: Arkham City[]
Batman: Arkham Knight[]
It is unlikely will be in the new Joker because of his death in Arkham City. However there could be an easter egg or riddle about him in Arkham Knight?
Well, Harley is appearing so he will most likely be mentioned. He might even appear in flashbacks and with Scarecrow's return, hallucinations as well? NathanJohnson (talk) 16:38, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
Should there be quotes for Joker in arkham knight? He technically wasn't there but it should still count.IblisTheEternalSunGod (talk) 01:48, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
Origin story[]
I don't think we can claim that the Joker's origin in the Arkham games is the Killing Joke. The only source of this info is the Joker himself, who is unreliable for obvious reasons (i.e. insanity). Second of all, even in The Killing Joke, the Joker admits that sometimes he remembers it one way, sometimes another, and since the story was told in Joker's flashbacks, this hints at the fact that the story isn't necessarily true. It is just one possible origin. 98.90.88.159 17:17, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, considering Arkham Origin's account, I really think we should significantly rewrite it, since there's absolutely nothing in there that even mentions that he had a wife and family. In fact, the way it was presented seemed like Joker told a joke at a comedy club that was so bad that several hecklers actually attempted to kill him on-stage for it, then after subduing the hecklers, he ended up ambushed by members of Falcone's gang. Not even the Joker actually alludes to it in the patient interview with Harleen Quinzel (actually, technically, he doesn't actually talk about his past other than in ambiguous general terms). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 11:21, September 2, 2014 (UTC)
Page Appearance[]
There were issues with the page earlier... does it appear okay now? (MDGeistMD02 (talk) 17:55, March 26, 2016 (UTC))
Joker vs The Joker[]
Why using "The Joker" instead of just "Joker"? He's pretty much consistently called just "Joker" the entire series (except for Arkham Origins) as if it was his own name, not "the Joker". Yes, it's an alias, but this wiki doesn't call Batman "the Batman" because of that. - Ver-mont (talk) 03:40, May 31, 2016 (UTC)
I kinda get what you're saying by referencing the Joker, simply as 'Joker'.
However, I did a quick search through the internet just to check.
If I type in search: Joker (just by itself with no 'the' article in front of it), I get the following:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joker_(comics) "The Joker is a fictional supervillain created by Bill Finger..."
http://www.dccomics.com/characters/joker "First appearance of the Joker from Batman #1..."
http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/The_Joker_(Heath_Ledger) "The Joker was as a criminal mastermind who terrorized Gotham City and whose goal is to plunge it into anarchy...."
In every one of those instances, even if the title of the page is 'Joker', he is referred to as 'the Joker' within the text of the articles. I'm not saying this is 100% true every time, but it does happen a great deal.
Now if I search Batman on the 'net, I get this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman "Batman is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published..."
http://www.dccomics.com/characters/batman "Batman, the Dark Knight..."
http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Batman "Batman is a superhero co-created by artist Bob Kane and writer Bill Finger..."
Even though you are right, Batman should be called "The Batman", he is rarely, if ever referred to such like anywhere, save an occasional article or two.
MDGeistMD02 (talk) 03:50, May 31, 2016 (UTC)
Adding Photos[]
I wanted to add a couple of photos to Joker's Arkham Asylum gallery, but there's no option to do so. I was wondering if it would be possible to allow me or someone else to do so, because I think that part of the gallery is restricted.Cooltim52 (talk) 17:09, January 8, 2017 (UTC)
Black Mask photo[]
The photo in the Black Mask tabber isn't Joker disquised as Black Mask. It was Roman Sionis. I suggest replacing it with another pictue, such as when he revealed himself.Rogeta234 (talk) 02:42, March 12, 2017 (UTC)
Interwiki[]
Can you add the interwiki french ? [[fr:Joker]]
Thank,
Bon Wiki
Thegamer1604 (Discussion) 21:21, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
P.S. Thank for the other interwiki (as Quinn, Black Mask ...) ;)
- Done. And you're welcome. :) MDGeistMD02 (talk) 21:57, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Interwiki (2)[]
Hello,
The French title was wrong. I renamed the page. Can you change the interwiki [[fr:Joker]] to [[fr:Le Joker]].
Sorry Thegamer1604
- All fixed! :) MDGeistMD02 (talk) 20:21, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you
Bon Wiki
Thegamer1604 (Discussion) 10:34, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you
Joker real name[]
With the relative new "Flashpoint Beyond #5" Dc revealed main comic Joker's real name: Jack Oswald White and confirmed that his canon origin is the one depicted in "The Killing Joke". Since in the Arkhamverse it was confirmed during the events of "Batman Arkham Origins" that his origin is the same as the one from "The Killing Joke", and that in "Batman Arkham Asylum" and "Batman Arkham Knight: A Matter of Family" is revealed that one of Joker aliases is Jack White, can't we assume that the arkhamverse Joker real name is the same as the comic one?
- I'd rather have dev confirmation on this as the Comics have contradicted or been themselves contradicted by the actual games. MDGeistMD02 (talk) 05:03, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
Joker's origin[]
I think that this joker had a very similar origin to the one in "the killing joke", it is almost safe to assume that he left his job as a lab assistant and chemical engineer to pursue his dream of being a stand-up comedian.
Also, is there any evidence that shows that he worked in ace chemicals as a feeble attempt to save his wife.
Another thing I want to mention is throughout his origin in AO, you see a lot of flying playing cards, so maybe the falcone family was trying to rob the playing card company next to the chemical plant, and they were going to get access to the factory through the plant and they took joker as a "tour guide" due to it being his old workplace
Joker's real name[]
Others have also mentioned this but isn't it mentioned that joker had an alias of Jack White, and knowing Joker's personality he would use his real name with no problems. (The name is mentioned in the franchise in "A Matter of Family" and "Arkham Asylum", maybe in other instances)
Another way to think about this is looking to all his other names in other universes. His name is "Jack Napier" in the 1989 movie, knowing that this version had also fell into a vial giving him this look, he had a different origin as he was a mob boss and the one in the arkhamverse was a chemist and a stand-up comedian. Another name he had was "Arthur Fleck" in the movie "Joker", but this version had a completely different story. The last name that I know of is Jack White the one that is mentioned in the game. In DC's Flashpoint Beyond #5, we see that his name is Jack Oswald White, and we know that he was a standup comedian even though there are some differences like him working in a menial cleaning job in the comic and that this one has a happy life and his son is born. But this version does look so similar to the one in the killing joke which wb montreal took as inspiration and changed somethings about it in the arkhamverse, so maybe it's the same one in the arkhamverse as it is also mentioned that this one was also a failed stand-up comedian. It is revealed in this comic that the joker's name is Jack Oswald White and that Martha tried to change the timeline and the first one she mentions that she visits is the Joker, hhmmmmm, isn't that suspicious, so maybe if she didn't changed the timeline and helped him and that's why he is a happy man in this timeline. And if she didn't intervene he would have had the same origin as the one in the killing joke or the arkhamverse as they ar so related and only have minor differences. I would like to say also that anything that isn't mentioned about the Joker in the arkhamverse in his origin should be the same as the killing joke as it was wb montreal's inspiration when giving us joker's origin and they only changed some parts. And they didn't give us his real name so it's the same as the killing joke, the same thing goes for his type of job in ace chemicals and when exactly did he work in ace chemicals and why did he leave this job. And what I'm trying to say this whole big paragraph is that the one in the killing joke is the same one as in flashpoint so his name is also, Jack Oswald White, so the one in the arkhamverse is also named jack oswald white. I explained all of this in this paragraph without mentioning him using the name so much in the franchise.
So sorry for writing all of this but I tried to explain so much that you'd be convinced and add these changes.