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Anonymous dawog said...

I strongly believe that the original 14 Yr copyright term with only one renewal allowed, registration required, was perfect. I also think the 12 Yr term proposed in the RSC policy brief is also acceptable, especially with the varying cost penalties applied to renewal terms.

In absolutely no case should a copyright term be allowed to exceed a total of 50 years (and that's at least 22 years to much).

Just my 14 cent opinion...

19 November 2012 at 19:40

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I totally agree that the copyright term has got out of control. The effect of this is a shift in the de facto goal of copyright law away from rewarding creators and towards the protection and maintenance of established capital assets.

While this would be fine if it was an economically reasoned position that had been developed with clear and open legislative intent, it seems to me that the shift has in fact happened by the backdoor and without any particular economic justification -- except for protecting established industries (like traditional music/media) from the need to innovate and compete.

It is most unfortunate and very ironic that in many cases (mashups and parody are the go to examples) copyright creates more risk than reward for creators.

20 November 2012 at 11:22

Anonymous Andy J said...

The principal argument used to support extensions of the copyright term says that the oeuvre of a successful author, artist, composer etc is equivalent to another person's pension, and that thus the post mortem element is there to support the author's spouse and offspring after his/her death. The reason for increasing this period from 50 to 70 years in many jurisdictions seems to be that people live longer now than they did when such concepts were brought into the early Berne Conventions. Clearly a spouse who survives for 70 years after the death of the author is a somewhat rare thing, but even assuming this remains a sensible method for calculating a copyright term, why should the same hold where the rights owner is actually not a human being but rather a corporate entity?
Perhaps we should consider changing the law so that an assignment of copyright to anyone other than a natural person (or possibly a trust in favour of the author's immediate family) immediately converts the term to a fixed period (say 50 years) following creation, first publication or making available to the public of the work. Similarly where the first owner of copyright is the employer by virtue of CDPA Section 11 (and its international equivalents), the term would automatically be 50 years from creation. Since something similar already exists with regard to sound recordings (notwithstanding the recent extension to 70 years) and broadcasts, the system could have a certain symmetry which it currently lacks. Also since I suspect that, de facto, most first owners of the copyright in films will actually be companies (even though they may be personal vehicles for the director, producer etc) and so should be swept up by the s 11 provisions, this would add further coherence to the otherwise varied current system of copyright terms. To complete the picture, much the same approach could be applied to performance and database rights.
Clearly there would need to be additional regulations to prevent corporations just buying perpetual exclusive licences instead of assignments, but that would not be too difficult to resolve. Perhaps the key to this particular problem lies in continuing to deny mere licencees any standing to bring civil actions for infringement, or to press for criminal prosecutions for infringement.

20 November 2012 at 17:37

Blogger john walker said...

andy
Child prodigies are very rare, most successful publications are by authors of about 30 years+ of age (and most spouses are of roughly the same age) therefore a term of 50 years would cover a 30 year old author until he or she is 80.

As best as I understand it the reason for extending the term of copyright back in the 1850s was that many authors were dead by 40-50 and therefore there was a real problem of relatively young widows and children, in a society that had no proper welfare system.

21 November 2012 at 00:49

Anonymous Eric said...

A couple of minor points:
"There is a certain irony that utility patents are currently protected for 20 years from application whereas articles containing know-how required to make the products of the patents can be protected for 70 years."

It should be mentioned that the patent term is a flat 20 years, but the copyright term is n+70, so very often the actual term is well more than 130 years.

"In the US there is a registration requirement for copyright"

Again, a minor point, but we don't require registration. It's now optional, and only required if you want to sue.

Also, I like Andy J's idea, but I wonder how that would work with respect to copyright recapture? If I sell rights to a company in my novel, does it become life plus 70 again if I sue to recapture under §203? If I then want to sell it to a new publisher, can I only offer them fifteen years of exclusive rights, or does the 50 years reset?

21 November 2012 at 04:21

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like Andy J's idea about a copyright term that converts on first assignment. There is slight echo here of the idea in some of the historical legislation where the later part of the term was not assignable.

I seem to remember someone once telling me that rational for the length of copyright term was so that it saw out the children and grandchildren of the creator.

I'm not sure how this has any economic justification though.

21 November 2012 at 09:28

Anonymous R. Lee said...

If one wanted to make the argument on "constitutional principles", they should go back to the so-called Copyright Clause in the Constitution which states Congress has the power "To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries." A strict reading of this would be that copyright is designed to promote social good; therefore the limited monopoly authors were given is means to achieve that end. If the end of promoting the progress of science and useful arts is not achieved through life +50 or life +70 years protection, then the terms are unconstitutional.

21 November 2012 at 12:25