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Hence, I suppose, your proposed modifying it to "power for your ideas", the "your" emphasizing the empowerment of the individual. Perhaps it's a more philosophically accurate slogan, although it lacks the same {{w|Richard Stallman|Stallman}}-esque connotations of support for copyleft that are attached to the current slogan. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 17:50, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Hence, I suppose, your proposed modifying it to "power for your ideas", the "your" emphasizing the empowerment of the individual. Perhaps it's a more philosophically accurate slogan, although it lacks the same {{w|Richard Stallman|Stallman}}-esque connotations of support for copyleft that are attached to the current slogan. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 17:50, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

: Hi Leucosticte, unless I misremember, I believe I tagged this on to the original logo and I don't think it had been used before then. I see it as more of a reference to ''wiki'' principles (allowing content to be edited and built upon easily and openly). Some wiki engines try to represent functionality that's more CMS-like (e.g. complex workflows and access controls), while MediaWiki's functionality tends to be driven by the needs of open communities with minimal barriers to entry.--[[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] ([[User talk:Eloquence|talk]]) 19:46, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

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bs.wiki

Hallo Erik. Wir haben vor kurzem auf der bs.wiki den Sichterstatus eingeführt. Komischerweise zeigt die Software aber keine Rufzeichen wie ich es von der de.wiki gewohnt bin.
The following groups have been added to bswiki:

'bswiki' => array(
'patroller' => array( 'patrol' => true ),
'autopatrolled' => array( 'autopatrol' => true ),
'rollbacker' => array( 'rollback' => true ),
),  

Also, the Bureaucrats are the only ones able to assign or unassign these groups.
Patrolled, Autopatrolled und Rollback wurden auf true gesetzt. Sind bei der Mediawikisoftware noch irgendwelche Änderungen nötig? Falls es zu zeitaufwendig ist und du keine Zeit hast, vielleicht könntest mir wen sagen der es machen könnte? Ansonsten falls es nur paar Klicks sind, darf ich dich bitten? :)) THX im Voraus. --Seha 15:06, 12 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Fuer FlaggedRevs-Fragen am besten User:Voice of All kontaktieren. Er ist der Hauptentwickler der Extension.--Eloquence 01:03, 13 June 2009 (UTC)Reply
Danke! --Seha 18:39, 13 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Entschuldige dass ich nochmals störe aber VoA reagiert nicht, gibt es noch wen? --Seha 06:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Bug 19280: PDF generator license terms should reflect dual license

You may be interested in bugzilla:19280. — Carl (CBM · talk) 15:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Opt-out aus dem Licensing update

Hallo Erik, auf Commons ist ein opt-out aus dem Licensing update diskutiert worden, das momentan implementiert wird. Ich habe bereits auf Wikimedia_Forum#Opting_out_of_the_licensing_update nachgefragt, ob das überhaupt zulässig ist, da ich in der Entscheidung der Foundation keine Hinweise auf ein opt-out gefunden habe. Ich würde mich freuen, wenn du mir das beantworten könntest. Danke und beste Grüße, --ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 13:43, 8 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Email

I just dropped you an email (to the address listed on your user page). This is just in case you missed it, which you probably didn't, but hey... Jarry1250 08:44, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

User page on en:

Semi-protect it ? 41.145.124.178 07:31, 7 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks :-). --Eloquence 01:55, 9 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Notice of review of adminship

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File upload without licence

Hi. Could you add the license to the files that you have uploaded to meta. Thanks.Crochet.david 07:41, 20 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

Which files are you referring to? Files uploaded when the upload form had a "I agree to license under GFDL" checkbox can be assumed to be under GFDL.--Eloquence 19:14, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply
This file.Crochet.david 20:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

Usurped ja:User:Eloquence

Hello, Eloquence! I am ja:User:Kanjy, a bureaucrat of Japanese Wikipedia. As per your request, I usurped ja:User:Eloquence, which had been taken by an abuser. Cheers! --Kanjy 07:24, 20 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. :-) --Eloquence 01:24, 25 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Credo

Hi Erik, How do I ping Credo? Regards, SunCreator 04:05, 5 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, it's now done :) SunCreator 00:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

HTML question

Good day to you. Myself (User:Kumioko from the English Wikipedia) and a couple of other editors (at least a couple that I know of) are attempting to do various things within wikipedia and I was informed that you were the one to pose an HTML question too. We would like to be able to build things that contain multiple input boxes, which is currently not possible. In my case I am in the beginning stages of creating an article creator that would allow users (particularly inexperienced ones) with creating article relating to military biographies. Another editor is attempting a similar task for diseases (he is the one I got the idea from). IN my case I would like to pose a series of questions such as What is the name of the person for the article they are creating, when they were born, where they were born etc so that after 10 to 15 questions they can create a basic article with the information of the individual. Please let me know what you think of the idea and if possible a way to accomplish it. --138.162.8.58 16:18, 13 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

"Researcher" User Permissions on en.wiki

Hello Erik, I was curious about obtaining the "researcher" user permission on en.wiki in order to support my academic work. I contacted user DarTar, seemingly the only permission to obtain the permission, and he pointed me your way. My en.wiki user-page should be sufficient to show my good intentions. I have developed an anti-vandalism tool for Wikipedia and have academic publications on the topic (including one upcoming at WikiSym). Thanks, -AW, 98.225.152.76 13:16, 4 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Hello there,
it's a bit silly for WMF to be a bottleneck for these requests, so I've started a discussion about developing a community process for granting this set of permissions, at w:Wikipedia talk:Research. I'd prefer to put your request on hold until we've figured this out, and use you as a guinea pig - sorry for the inconvenience.--Eloquence 02:27, 9 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, west.andrew.g

Reports, here and on wmf:

Hello Erik, thanks for your comments. I agree that duplication isn't useful, and simply want more and more detailed summaries and visualizations of what we are up to. By that I mean what all Wikimedians are doing, not just the Foundation. So I find it productive to put energy into consolidating that information; among other things it puts the Foundation's work in perspective and keeps it from becoming isolated. If we were only to publish WMF reports in a single language on a locked website, that might lead to chapters to doing the same, which wouldn't make for a very connected wikiverse.

You are right that we need more translation of important reports. I will see what I can do to get the Gardner Report and the similarly regular and extensive WM:DE reports translated for a start. SJ · talk | translate 03:55, 1 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Quantitative study of pending changes

As there is a lack of data regarding the risks / benefits of pending changes I have proposed a trail here. Any feedback? [1] --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:06, 6 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

PD-Art Template

Hi Erik, Would you be so kind as to look over my comments at Commons:Template_talk:PD-Art#Correction_of_false_statement_on_this_template to see if I have my facts and assumptions correct. It relates to a contribution you made to the PD-Art debate on Commons and as this template is linked to a huge number of files I believe it is particularly important that the text is scrupulously accurate. 9carney 21:30, 7 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

Input Box Height

Dear Erik, About Input Box Height I really want to change the height of inputbox,I only know to change the width, can you help me?Can you send it to my email.I am from China,my hotmail is jackerda@hotmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.75.29.150 (talkcontribs) 05:27, 9 December 2010

I came here to ask the same thing, really - if it is possible to use an inputbox (to search, or whatever) with a different size or font - I discovered that HTML allows it by changing font, e.g. <INPUT TYPE="TEXT" STYLE="width:400; height:150; font-size: 5em">, however it does not appear to be possible to pass such information through mw:Extension:InputBox, as far as I can tell? Chzz 23:06, 24 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Test bed for the ReaderFeedback extension

Hi. Your comments would be helpful in the discussion here. Thanks!   — Jeff G. ツ 10:26, 26 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Proposals for more female editors

Aren't you in a conflict of interest when you remove proposals which, if approved, would be more work for you? Can we agree to keep all the proposals visible with specific rationales for and against? I realized after we spoke that in response to the California Chapter grant proposal you stated that you lacked confidence in my ability, which is specifically in contradiction with your statement that you are confident that I can accomplish the necessary work. Whichever end of that spectrum is true, I am certain that Yaron Koren is the more efficient and experienced choice to upgrade the Quiz Extension to GIFT. James Salsman 21:04, 6 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

James, having read your proposals that were removed, they all seem either unrelated to being welcoming to female editors, or easily misinterpreted as being offensive along gender lines. Please don't assume conflict of interest! The talk page seems to be a better place for discussion of those and other controversial proposals. SJ · talk | translate 21:38, 6 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
SJ, it is one thing to say that they seem unrelated, but specific rationales have been stated and linked to for all of them, both on the Gendergap list and/or the talk page. So far, there has been no discussion addressing those reasons. When Erik deleted the proposals he didn't like, he did so with a vague edit summary without any specific reasons, and referring to a talk page discussion which didn't even mention some of the items he deleted, and which objected most strongly to some of the items which he did not delete. I intend to restore all of them in a tabular format so we can keep track of the rationales both for and against each. Which proposal(s) are you saying can be misinterpreted as being offensive? James Salsman 22:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
I'm not discounting the value of your intellectual approach, James. You have an unusual mind which may surface sides of a problem most people are unlikely to see. At the same time, you also tend to jump to conclusions with a high degree of confidence and specificity. I don't think the highly specific items that you added to the list are helpful to others who are trying to address the issue of female participation -- they will be seen as confusing, unrelated, and will lead to people discounting the page as pointless (as Ironholds did). If you wish for that to continue, by all means add them back -- the result will be that it will become James Salsman's page, and people will ignore it. On the other hand, if you want to influence people's perspective, I suggest taking a more step-by-step approach, and focusing on the discussion page on larger themes such as the relationship between gender, income, and access to technology, and implications this may have for growth especially in developing countries, without prescribing highly specific solutions.--Eloquence 01:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Why do you say that ideas associated with my name will be ignored? Fred B. spent a lot of effort trying to attribute all of the ideas -- including others' -- to me too,[2][3] and I would really like to understand the dynamic here, or avoid it altogether and go back to (my substantially more successful, so far) practice of editing meta as an IP. I agree there needs to be a better way to clearly explain how all of the proposals relate to support for women, but I have explained these things in detail before. It's interesting to me that Ironholds brought up the restrictions on UK charities' political activity because helping the UK chapter to attain charitable status is one of the main reasons I proposed low stakes assessment content questions a year and a half ago.[4] In accordance with Carol's wishes to brainstorm first and cull the wheat from the chaff later I do intend to restore visibility of all the proposals. With luck I will do a better job summarizing the rationales instead of just linking to explanations elsewhere. James Salsman 04:47, 7 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
  • To poke my head in, the problems WMUK is having with charitable status are actually unrelated to any political activities. Engaging in political activities would, however, rather shut the door to some degree :P. Ironholds 10:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Spanish edition

Hi, Erik. I´ve been expelled from the Spanish edition unfairly. Many of my articles have been deleted because of alleged plagiarism, which is false and it can be proved. I started collaborating with wikipedia several years ago, and at the beginning I didn´t know the rules very well. Unwittingly, I made some mistakes with references and I was correcting them when Ecemaml (the administrator´s name) expelled me. There are many complaints about this administrator, even a blog about him, but nobody does anything. In general, thousands of good/correct articles are deleted. Others, are admitted in different editions (English, French, etc) and deleted from the Spanish one, alleging "lack of relevance". The rest of administrators obey Ecemaml´s commands and they don´t say a word. I think that wikipedia´s spirit should be inclusive. Could you please intervene? Thank you. --81.9.232.137 16:06, 9 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Extension:InputBox

Hi Elquence . I want to ask you about Extension:InputBox , is there is a way to change the color of its button . --Mohamed Ouda 21:28, 5 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

The Wikipedia Game

A discussion about improving Wikipedia's help documentation inspired an idea--tutorials would be best if they were interactive and immersive. The thought of a learning-teaching game came up, one based on a real interface with realistic 'missions'. Would you be interested in providing some feedback or helping work on it, or know some editors who might? The idea is just getting started and any assistance with the help/policy side, the experienced-editor side, or the coding/game-making side would be great. Cheers, Ocaasi 04:05, 30 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the links, Erik

Been a long-time fan of your work, I think this is one of the first times I've bumped into each other directly, so-- good work! We should be telling you and Sue that all the time, but being human, we focus too much on the "needs improvement" side of things.

Do we know where this text came from? Did Anthere write it ex nihilo or is it based on some other document? --Alecmconroy 04:53, 15 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Wikilove

Hi Eric,

This is rather trivial, but since the announcement gave some light to the Wikilove page on the prototype site, there is an IP who in the past few days has been trying (three times so far) to insert an unrelated russian link to the demo page. You may want to consider semi-protecting, at least for a bit.

Regards, Popo le Chien 07:16, 28 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Translator, We need you!

Dear Eloquence,

You have helped us in previous years with translations and for that we are most grateful. Now we turn towards the 2011/12 fundraiser. It may seem forever away, but work has already begun getting everything ready to go. This year we want to have landing pages covering as many countries in as many languages as possible.

Right now, we want to figure out who is interested in translating for the fundraiser. This year we're hoping to have more of a solidified "core" group of translators that we can count on to have work done by a few key dates, but we'd also welcome help from people who are willing to just help out when they can.

If you would be interested please take a look at this little sign-up survey and fill it out http://survey.wikimedia.org/index.php?sid=13638&newtest=Y&lang=en. With that we can start building a list of people and filling any gaps in the languages we serve.

Many Thanks

Joseph Seddon (User:Jseddon (WMF))

Production Coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation
Jseddon (WMF) 00:49, 9 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Thanks

for those links. Add more whenever you want :-) Sue Gardner 20:39, 9 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

Flagged Revisions

Bitte mit der Diskussion nochmal befassen, bevor das Update live geht. Es liegen Datenschutzbedenken vor. --Matthiasb 10:56, 22 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

Notice of review of adminship

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Coding challenges centralnotice

Just pointing out that the banner texts for the coding challenges mention "Wikipedia" coders, and the CentralNotice/Calendar says that the banner will run for all projects, including non-Wikipedia projects, in case you want to fix this, by either changing it to {PROJECTNAME} or "Wikimedia", or change it to not run on non-Wikipedia projects... --Yair rand 79.182.206.55 08:21, 16 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Coding challenge idea

I think the first coding challenge should be writing a translation queue/update system that doesn't suck. ;-) --MZMcBride 02:10, 21 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Who could leave a kind note...

Hi! I have noticed that vi-wiki host quite a few unused non-free files and I asked them twice to delete it. So far there is no response. I really do not know who to ask. Perhaps you or someone else from the office could leave a kind note and inform them that it is important to clean up non-free files? --MGA73 12:16, 11 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

I asked them again with backup from User:PeterSymonds and got a positive response here. So it seems that your assistance is not needed :-) --MGA73 10:07, 16 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

English Wikipedia filter for detection of new WikiLove messages

It would be nice if you could respond to en:Wikipedia talk:Edit filter#Filter 423 - WikiLove. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:29, 16 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

I've generally found that e-mail is the best way to reach Erik (erik/wikimedia.org). If there's no response, you can assume silence is consensus. :-) --MZMcBride 17:21, 19 November 2011 (UTC)Reply


Is it allowed in Wikipedia?

To keep in the pages of wiki Administrator's personnel thesis? at http://sd.wikipedia.org ? Other problem is We call Computer as same in English, but admin forcibly used his word Ganpukar of Computer. I have proof that thousands of published books called it Computer not Ganpukar. If some one oppose him he started abusive language. That is the reason sd.wikipedia.org never got attraction to Sindhi community. Plz check record there. Other things are he locked CSS due to that on the same site there are lot of font styles appeared there. He is not able to set commonCSS or Monocss. We are in trouble to work in our local Sindhi language. I don't know where to say for this problem. Record history says all the situation there. I appeal plz warn him to follow en.wikipedia.org rules, other wise he will continue use his personnel details and personnel promoted articles there. Dear I am sorry If u r not right person to say all about this, Plz suggest me where I can raise this issue. My sd.wikipedia.org ID is same. His thesis is not a violetion? http://sd.wikipedia.org/wiki/ماحولياتي_انتظام_ڪاڻ_اُپُگِرَهِي_عَڪس_ضماءُ_۽_درجه_بنديءَ_جي_طريقن_جو_اَڀياس Alixafar 00:06, 21 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Online journal and textbook access

Hi. Are you the best WMF contact for a discussion about getting some JSTOR (or similar) access for active editors? This discussion involving some of en.WP's best and most productive editors would welcome input from WMF. It has also spun off slightly onto Mr Wales' en.WP talk page. --Anthonyhcole 01:23, 29 November 2011 (UTC) (Best to contact me at my en.WP talk page or simply enter one of those conversations.)Reply

Anmerkungen zur aktuellen Autoren-Umfrage

Hallo Eloquence; da ich trotz einigen Suchens noch keine Stelle gefunden habe, an der mehr oder weniger "offiziell" Feedback zur aktuellen Umfrage abgegeben werden kann, weder in der englischen noch in der deutschen Wikipedia noch hier auf Meta, und die Umfrage selber leider auch keine Option bietet, am Ende einen frei formulierten zusätzlichen Kommentar zu geben, wende ich mich mal an dich. Und zwar mit einem Hinweis auf de:Wikipedia:Café#Neue_Autoren-Umfrage, wo ich ein paar Kommentare zu gewissen Details der Umfrage, die ich als problematisch oder schwierig zu beantworten empfand, niedergeschrieben habe - in der Hoffnung, so irgendwie die Verantwortlichen zu erreichen :-). Am meisten gestört haben mich eigentlich die beiden Punkte, die ich dort zuletzt nenne. Gestumblindi 21:31, 15 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Hallo Gestumblindi, die bei WMF für die Umfrage verantwortliche Person ist Mani Pande, unter mpande at wikimedia dot org erreichbar. Ich habe sie auf die Diskussion hingewiesen, allerdings wäre eine Übersetzung ins Deutsche wahrscheinlich sehr hilfreich.-Eloquence 21:52, 15 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
Vielen Dank für die schnelle Reaktion! Du meinst wohl "ins Englische" ;-) - werde ich gerne noch machen, allerdings vielleicht nicht mehr heute. Gestumblindi 22:56, 15 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Support wanted to solidify graphic initiatives and SVG innovation

(erik at wikimedia dog org not responding )

Dear Erik,

I've been for 6 years the architect-coordinator and a leading graphist & mapmaker of the +6 Graphic Labs and about one hundred graphists, who edited or created more than 12.000 images including +5.000 maps for wikipedia over the last 6 years. I'm now returning to active involvement, coordination, and R&D monitoring for images edition on wikipedia. My interest for graphics start with the following fact: articles are made of both textual and graphic contents. But I'm quite stuck to see there is no graphic team pushing for graphic innovation neither at the WM level, nor at the strategic wiki level. On the other hand, there are some tremendous visions and opportunities open to us on the graphic, SVG and mapmaking sides. The capabilities of SVG are underused, a web 2.0 online collaborative GIS mapmaking is need and proposed (see : http://Sharemap.org : the webmaster create it for Wikipedia and Wikimedia commons), images on commons should not be duplicated for translations but multi-linguistic layers should be used with online translation, thus easing our work on commons and enlarging WM's reach, etc.

These directions and others are several heavy projects specific to the graphic edition side that I overviewed and coordinated for this last 6 years. Also, I gathered a team of skilled programmers and graphists. Briana Laugher and Philippe Beaudete advised me to contact you for supports. I'm indeed interested to know... To push SVG, maps & graphic innovation :

  • can the wikimedia foundation actively support and solidify these projects ? so we can ACT NOW.
    • how ?
    • a call to developpers to support the initiative (effective ?)
    • some founding.
  • the OSM-Wikipedia collaboration got 15.000US$
    • Are the 20.000US$ of the Greenspun project explicitly donated to improve SVG still available
    • and who should I contact to find solid supports/funding to push these innovations ?

We are looking for contacts, scholarship, programmers to solidly support these projects.

Hoping your support for this graphic side of wikipedia, Regards,
--Hugo Lopez (Hugo.Lpz on gmail) 21:58, 16 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Hi Hugo,
I responded via e-mail.--Eloquence (talk) 23:00, 21 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

San Francisco Women's History Month Edit-a-Thon

San Francisco Women's History Month Edit-a-Thon!
Who should come? You should. Really.
The San Francisco Women's History Month Edit-a-Thon will be held on Saturday, March 17, 2012 at the the Wikimedia Foundation offices in San Francisco! Participate in editing subjects about women's history and beyond! Workshops will also be hosted. New and experienced editors of any gender are welcome!
We look forward to seeing you there!

Web site not loading

Hi. The following pages are not loading for me:

Thought you might want to look into this if you weren't already aware. --MZMcBride (talk) 18:37, 25 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

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IPv6 rumors

Hello, there seems to be some rumors and unclear statements around that Wikimedia intends to implement IPv6 either temporarily or permanently for the World IPv6 launch thingy on June 6. I would appreciate if you clarify that indeed it's not getting implemented on production wikis. While the switch is unavoidable in the long run, doing it without proper announcements with a loooot of time to prepare for it, by fixing the hundreds of scripts, bots, tools that would be broken by the IPv6 implementation and properly explaining to admins across all wikis how to do IPv6 blocks and rangeblocks. I assume that indeed, we're not doing anything on the production servers this June, but it would be great to have this confirmed and the rumors quashed. Snowolf How can I help? 02:12, 23 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Regardless of the answer, mw:Roadmap#MediaWiki_Core needs clarification.--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:28, 23 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
I have to agree with Snowolf. Without proper information this could do more harm than good. Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 22:42, 23 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
Hi there,
we're using IPv6 Day as a motivation to get us closer to full production deployment, but it's not a "come hell or high water" permanent deployment date. We're planning to do some limited production testing at the Berlin Hackathon and on IPv6 Day, but we'll only keep it enabled if the issues are manageable. Please note known critical issues that we can help with in Bugzilla, as blockers for bugzilla:35540. I'll share some more detailed notes in the next couple of days once the team has had a chance to weigh in. --Eloquence (talk) 00:46, 24 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
I read: "If it works, it's permanent. If not, it's temporary."--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:26, 24 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
So basically you are confirming that you're enabling this without an advance public announcement, without any time for tools to be updated and personnel to be trained. I am at a loss of word for this initiative. I can only suggest that this initiative be immediately be rescinded, and that the community be properly informed and prepared to deal with this. It is simply incredible to hear you're going forward with this after the issue I've raised on this very page. I am really, really puzzled by your nonchalance in dismissing the fact that our tools, necessary for our jobs as admins are going to be suddenly not being able to deal with a certain set of IPs, and that our admin personnel has mostly no training in how to handle these IPs. This vulnerability in our defense system, if you will, is surely to be exploited by our regular vandals. It is frankly insulting to have the WMF throw this upon us without any warning, without any time to fix things and without any regard for our concerns when we find out, thru obscure references, that this is going to be implemented. Snowolf How can I help? 21:27, 31 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
Also, I assume you have already made provisions for the complete set of Teredo ranges to be blocked in advance. (it is to big for us to block it). Snowolf How can I help? 21:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
  1. If you believe admins will be confused, then by all means canvass and promote the IPv6 initiative, whose purpose is to prevent such confusion/chaos. This is why I've been lobbying for attention to that initiative.
  2. I'm going to lobby for the rangeblock limit to be raised to /32. /64 is too restrictive, and /32 is the rough equivalent of a /16 for ISPs. This will allow us to block User:2001::/32 (I've tested global rangeblocks that large on my own wikis) and hence end Teredo. 6to4s can be blocked in a similar way, which would equal blocking an IPv4 /16.--Jasper Deng (talk) 22:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
And also, global IPv6 rangeblocks can be of unlimited size, so regardless of what the devs say you can just g-rangeblock Teredo and 6to4 addresses.--Jasper Deng (talk) 03:09, 1 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Mathjax

Hello, nous avons eu le plaisir de voir que mathjax était disponible depuis un mois maintenant, en version expériementale. Nous avons noté un certain nombre d'erreurs, dont les deux les plus flagrantes sont:

  1. les signes > et < provoquent des erreurs de rendu
  2. le symbol & (ampersand) n'est pas interprété.

Question: quand penses-tu que ces erreurs (qu'un petit test aurait permis de découvrir avant de distribuer le script) seront corrigées ? Bonne journée --ManiacParisien (talk) 05:05, 2 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Wireframing

What did you use to make File:WikiProject Invite.png? I have used Mockingbird, but what you used looks easier. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 17:53, 13 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

This is Balsamiq.--Eloquence (talk) 20:46, 13 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Inputbox extension question

Hi there, I am trying to use your excellent Inputbox extension, and I have a quick question. Is there any way to control the size of the section being created if you set type=commenttitle? I want to use it to add subsections for users, not brand new level 2 (==) sections. If there isn't a way to do that, it would be a really handy feature to add. I have a workaround in mind for now, but any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Torchiest (talk) 21:03, 30 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Translation notification: Wikimedia Highlights, June 2012

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Übersetzungsbenachrichtigung: Wikimedia Highlights, August 2012

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As every month, translations are wanted for the new edition of the "Wikimedia Highlights", consisting of the most relevant information from the Foundation's general and technical monthly reports for August, with a short selection of other important news from the Wikimedia movement.

Please consider helping non-English-language Wikimedia communities to stay updated on the most important WMF activities, MediaWiki development work and other international news from the past month.

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Übersetzungsbenachrichtigung: Fundraising 2012/Translation/Landing Page and Banner messages

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Übersetzungsbenachrichtigung: Fundraising 2012/Translation/Jimmy Appeal

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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011/Jimmy_Letter_002/en

Last years translation/El año pasado, traducción/العام الماضي ترجمة/Прошлогодний перевод

This letter is a new translation request, but re-uses large parts of the 2011 Jimmy Appeal, with slight modifications in the second version.

If the 2011 Jimmy Letter has been translated into your language, you can probably re-use much of it for this translation. :-)

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Notice of review of adminship

Hello Eloquence. In accordance with Meta:Administrators/Removal and because you have made fewer than ten logged administrator actions over the past six months, your adminship is under review at Meta:Administrators/Removal/October 2012. If you would like to retain your adminship, please sign there before October 08, 2012. Kind regards, -- MarcoAurelio (talk) 09:41, 1 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Übersetzungsbenachrichtigung: Wikimedia Highlights, August 2012

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There is already a partially completed translation of the August 2012 "Wikimedia Highlights" in this language. It would be great if it could be finished, so that the earlier work is not lost, and the translation can be announced (alongside other finished ones) on the WikimediaAnnounce list on Wednesday.

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Wikimedia Travel Guide: Naming poll open

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Übersetzungsbenachrichtigung: Fundraising 2012/Translation/Donor information pages

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Übersetzungsbenachrichtigung: FDC portal/Proposals/CentralNotice2012

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Übersetzungsbenachrichtigung: Fundraising 2012/Translation/Launch email

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Conflict of interest warning

Making a statement like you did on my user page that was clearly out of line with your connection to the Foundation is a major PR no no. I am surprised that you haven't already been corrected for such an egregious mistake. As a note, I have talked to 3 members of the press who were already reading the page and have been working on articles about how particular Foundation staff has consistently gotten in the way of implementing aspects that are utterly necessary to protect the project. Your name was mentioned, and you know your name has come up often. It looks really bad for you attempting to intimidate critics, and it is ridiculous to do so in-front of the press. Ottava Rima (talk) 02:33, 19 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Unsolicited Advice: Sometimes, it's better for a high-status group member to overlook a minor offense by a low-status group member, due to "selective enforcement". That is, the low-status group member might actually be guilty, abstractly. But if much higher ranking others have done worse (sometimes far worse) with no admonishment, it can give a bad impression for the high-status group member to appear to suddenly be zealous for enforcement, but against the "little people". At some point, one of these extended incidents may end with a ban. But the resulting amount of drama can be minimized by attention to procedural fairness. -- Seth Finkelstein (talk) 22:49, 19 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

I posted regarding these issues at Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat#Civility and administrator COI issues to request a review from an uninvolved admin. --Pine 01:09, 22 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Question

Hello Eloquence. Perchance I saw that you desysopped Raindrift at commons for not being with the WMF anylonger. However Raindrift still keeps his global Staff flag. Shall I remove that? Best regards. -- MarcoAurelio (talk) 15:44, 20 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yes please, thank you for noticing.--Eloquence (talk) 20:48, 21 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
Done, Sir. Best regards. -- MarcoAurelio (talk) 21:30, 21 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Hi Eloquence, I am writing the Mises Wiki article on MediaWiki and was wondering if you could fill me in on the history of the logo. In particular, who came up with the slogan "Because ideas want to be free" and what was it intended to mean? Was "freedom" used in the sense of freedom of restriction, in that people were not hindered by copyright from using and distributing the software and adapting it to their own needs; or was it used more in the sense of power, much as a person who buys a car now has practical freedom to go wherever we wants, even though the law never restricted him from doing so? In other words, a person in a relatively free country who wanted to create a website for effective mass collaboration on expressing ideas was not prevented by any statute from doing so, but lacked the power to do so before he had MediaWiki; now that MediaWiki has enabled people to better work together to put into words and distribute via Internet those ideas, those ideas are "free" to circulate.

The concept of ideas "wanting" to be free is interesting. Obviously an idea, being an inorganic, nonmechanical concept lacking a brain, cannot "want" anything consciously. And yet people also describe genes as being "selfish" or "cooperative" because they cause that which they control or influence (i.e. human bodies) to behave in ways that would indicate "selfishness" or "cooperativeness" on the part of genes if they were conscious. Likewise, ideas, especially memes, act upon humans as if the ideas were attempting to exercise their own freedom, and even supremacy, in doing so. To use another analogy, it is similar to how people speak of a boulder teetering at the top of a hill as "wanting" to come down. In the absence of anything preventing it from doing so, it will; all it may need is a little push to overcome the few obstacles keeping its potential energy from becoming kinetic, and once the momentum starts, it will be hard to stop.

However, it's interesting that we would phrase it "because ideas want to be free" rather than "because ideas should be free" or "because we want ideas to be free". Of course, the phrasing "because ideas want to be free" helps disambiguate between other forms of freedom, such as being free of charge (e.g. "free beer"), so that is one advantage. But it raises the same question as would be raised if someone were to justify reproduction by saying it's a good idea "because genes want to replicate". Why should the ideas, which "want" to be free, get their way, any more than a boulder at the top of a hill should be pushed down because it "wants" to come down? People are, after all, not ideas, and a humanist is more concerned with the needs and wants of humans than with the metaphorical needs and wants of ideas (otherwise they would be called idea-ists or something like that). Even those who support certain ideas usually have some superordinate goal, involving serving some living entity (whether it be God, humans, animals, etc.); the idea is merely a means to an end.

Hence, I suppose, your proposed modifying it to "power for your ideas", the "your" emphasizing the empowerment of the individual. Perhaps it's a more philosophically accurate slogan, although it lacks the same Stallman-esque connotations of support for copyleft that are attached to the current slogan. Leucosticte (talk) 17:50, 21 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Hi Leucosticte, unless I misremember, I believe I tagged this on to the original logo and I don't think it had been used before then. I see it as more of a reference to wiki principles (allowing content to be edited and built upon easily and openly). Some wiki engines try to represent functionality that's more CMS-like (e.g. complex workflows and access controls), while MediaWiki's functionality tends to be driven by the needs of open communities with minimal barriers to entry.--Eloquence (talk) 19:46, 22 October 2012 (UTC)Reply