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Title and alias[]

Character is best known as Thor so it should be a title in the infobox. Odinson is his real name so it shouldn't be listed as an alias. —Mrkermit (talk) 19:55, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

The title of the infobox corresponds to the current alias of the character. Thor Odinson currently goes by "Odinson," he abdicated using the name "Thor."
--The ADour-incible ADour (talk) 20:28, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Layout Guide states that: "infoboxes are inspired by Marvel handbooks and it should be taken into account when deciding the fields infobox contains." I don't believe that Thor's entry will be named as Odinson for a long time. —Mrkermit (talk) 21:15, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

As ADour said, there's no question he abdicated the title of "Thor"; however, I don't believe that one's own name is an Alias per se, so would contend the proper coding would be the Title of "Odinson" here, rather than Current Alias being "Odinson", but either way, the infobox heading should display "Odinson", not "Thor". -- Annabell (talk) 21:22, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

To clarify, I agree with what Annabell said. I hadn't noticed "Odinson" was being listed as an actual alias, I had only focused on the part about it being used as the title in the infobox.

I don't understand the mention of the layout guideline. Thor's last proper profile update happened in 2012, so he still has to have a profile which lists him as "Odinson." If that's the argument why we shouldn't list the title as "Odinson," it's like saying that we shouldn't change the profile title of pages of characters that go with a different name until they get a handbook profile update. Which I don't think makes much sense.
--The ADour-incible ADour (talk) 21:40, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

And many characters don't have handbook entries at all. -- Annabell (talk) 22:50, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

"Thor" is not and never was a title, it's his name. And after the Odinson phase he was known as Thorr when he was using an alternate universe Mjolnir. But he asked to be called Odinson because he wasn't worthy. Seeing as how he IS worthy again, there is no reason to not call him Thor, in story or out. Rhyvurg

Marvel says it's a title and obviously they have the final say on what's official policy. -- Annabell (talk) 06:55, May 21, 2016 (UTC)

So when he was born his parents named him a title instead of a name? No. Just...no. It makes no sense, and treating it like a title just illustrates how badly they're handling Jane Foster. Rhyvurg

Seeing that he's worthy don't help without a reference for the use of name. It seems that Thor is both name and title (gods have strange customs). And character's title is not the same as title of infobox. —Mrkermit (talk) 09:35, May 21, 2016 (UTC)

I meant that I don't believe Thor's handbook entry would be titled as Odinson, if it's published today. —Mrkermit (talk) 09:35, May 21, 2016 (UTC)

It's clear that we have different opinions should we use best known or latest name in the infobox title. If we choose to use latest name, current alias field will become redundant as it's always printed as title. I'll start a new discussion on Marvel Database talk:Article Guidelines to decide what should be used for every character. —Mrkermit (talk) 09:35, May 21, 2016 (UTC)

Layout guide is now updated and consensus was to use current name as a title. Therefore I changed title to Odinson. —Mrkermit (talk) 21:17, May 23, 2016 (UTC)

Strength level[]

The age claims thor is multi planetary level. But he is not an example given is lifting the midgard serpent its even shown in a picture. It was in ether real form. The neutron star thing is a odd example and probably an example of the writer not knowing the extent of the feat they are writing. Thor needed Beta Ray Bills help to lift Asgard. An [ht] there are other examples of thor being much weaker than planetary lw[

There are also examples of much higher than multi-planetary level strength, such as during Walter Simonson's run on the book, when he destroyed Surtur's dimensional portal, which appeared to be the size of a solar system. Antvasima (talk) 10:15, June 16, 2016 (UTC)

Thor and Bill threw their hammers and destroyed it..and It has been said in the series repeatedly that Mjolnir has the power to destroy worlds. In Simonsons Thor run thor was buried in a avalanche of snow and needed to be saved, Herculese portrayed as thors equal or superior (by some writers) in strengths needed help to push over the Surtur portal on earth and it while huge was building size, During his battle with Fafnir a collapsing building is treated as a threat to him, as was lava. Siminson wrote a pretty mellow powered thor compared to what many people think of him at.

I dont doubt that some writers treat him as planetary in less than explicit terms most the time. But 99 percent of the time he is treated as much much lower than that. The article should not reflect only the most extreme examples. It would be like a superman wiki basing his stuff on odd showings like that time venom worked him over in unlimited access.

And even if other feats were this page still misrepresents several jormungand was in etherreal form, pushing the world tree did not move the 9 realms it brought time to them thats it. If nothing else these two entries need to be corrected. They are misquoted like crazy. MacDonaldthethird (talk)

Current worthiness[]

The article currently states that Mjolnir’s worthiness enchantment was changed upon its restoration in WotR #6 to allow Thor to wield it despite being unworthy. However, it’s been made pretty clear between that issue, Avengers #21 and Thor #15 that he is worthy again, having realised that worthiness comes from the constant struggle to be worthy. I’ve changed this on the Mjolnir page but can’t on this page because it’s locked. R. New Beta (talk) 00:19, July 18, 2019 (UTC)

Not to worry. I went in and changed it.Ershelby (talk) 00:21, July 18, 2019 (UTC)

Error in War of the Realms #5 description.[]

This is what the description of Thor's actions during War of the Realms #5 should be saying:

After helping strike down the Dark Council's forces all over the world, Thor learned that his parents were alive and were being held captive by Malekith at Stonehenge, which Malekith surrounded with a magic barrier that only Thor could pass through; if anyone else passed through the barrier, Odin and Frigga would die. Thor subsequently nailed himself to a part of Yggdrasil that was growing from the Sun with his ax Jarnbjorn and the assistance of Daredevil to learn how to defeat Malekith.

As it is written currently, the order of events is mixed up, claiming that Thor went to Yggdrasil before learning of Malekith's challenge. I also need to dispel the implication that Thor nailed himself to the World Tree on his own. Thor's page is locked right now, so I can't make the changes myself. — NES Boy (talk) 19:48, August 20, 2019 (UTC)

Indomitable Will?[]

Hey, guys. I remember about a year ago, that Thor had the ability Indomitable Will noted down on the abilities section of his page and rightly so, I believe. Now, however, it has been replaced with Telepathy Immunity, which suggests that he does not have an Indomitable Will, despite the multiple feats recorded there. Moreover, Tana Nile, a Rigellian, tried to subjugate Thor's will with her telepathy but he proved to be too strong against her mental domination, which prompted her to describe his will as "dauntless" and the other Rigellian remarked that Thor is the only individual since the dawn of time to have successfully overcome their mind thrust. Thus, it can be posited that Thor does, indeed, have an Indomitable Will, along with Captain America. What are your thoughts? Shouldn't it be changed?Mite-Man16 (talk) 17:34, October 6, 2019 (UTC)

The source of Thor's quote on the page comes from Captain Marvel Vol. 3 #17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVZrAHJohIw - The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mattia Garavini (talk • contribs).

Thor's current profile picture[]

It looks bad, he looks like a hobo with missing teeth.

--MrArtificialHuman (talk) 11:13, August 26, 2020 (UTC)

Lost powers and abilities information from Thor's Wikipedia page[]

Hello. The following information was removed from Thor's Wikipedia page due to being based on primary sources. Is it acceptable to add much of it here?

"Like all Asgardians, Thor is incredibly long-lived and relies upon periodic consumption of the Golden Apples of Idunn to sustain his extended lifespan, which to date has lasted many millennia. Being the son of Odin and the elder goddess Gaea, Thor is physically the strongest of the Asgardians.^{[1][2][3][4][5]} Thor is capable of incredible feats of strength, such as lifting the almost Earth-sized Midgard Serpent,^[6] supporting a weight equivalent to that of 20 planets,^[7] destroying Surtur's solar system-sized dimensional portal (by combining his power with that of Beta Ray Bill),^[8] and allegedly overpowering infinite gravity.^[9] By exerting himself to his maximum, he moved the Worldengine, which held the World Tree, which contains nine universal space-time continuums, and significantly affected their timelines.^[10] If pressed in battle, Thor is capable of entering into a state known as the "Warrior's Madness" ("berserkergang" in Norwegian and Danish alike), which will temporarily increase his strength and stamina tenfold, although in this state he attacks friend and foe alike.^[11][12][13]

Thor is extremely durable to physical injuries.^[14][15][16] He has even survived energy blasts from Celestials.^[17] Thor possesses keen senses^[18] that allow him to track objects travelling faster than light^[19] and hear cries from the other side of the planet.^[20] His stamina allowed him to battle the entire Frost Giant army for nine months without any sustenance or rest;^[21] Thor has shown the ability to regenerate wounded portions of his body,^[22] including entire limbs or organs, with the aid of magical forces such as Mjolnir.^[22] Thor has superhuman speed, agility, and reflexes, enabling him to deflect bullets with his hammer,^[23] and to swing or throw it at many times the speed of light.^[24][25][26] In early stories, Thor demonstrated vortex breath, which produces powerful winds.^[27] Like all Asgardians, he has immunity to all Earthly diseases and is resistant to magic. Exceptionally powerful magic can overwhelm Odin's enchantment that transforms him between Asgardian and mortal forms.^[28]

As the Norse god of thunder, Thor can summon the elements of the storm (lightning, rain, wind, snow) and uses Mjolnir as a tool to focus this ability, although the hammer cannot command artificial weather, only natural. He can cause these weather effects over the world and destroy entire buildings; by whirling his hammer he can lift entire buildings with the wind.^[3] Thor can also create small tornadoes by quickly whipping his cape in circles.^[23] As the son of the Earth goddess Gaea, Thor has shown control over the Earth.^[29][30]

Thor is a superb hand-to-hand combatant, and is skilled in armed combat, excelling in the use of the war hammer, sword, axe and mace. Thor possesses two items which assist him in combat: the enchanted Belt of Strength, and his signature weapon, the mystical hammer Mjolnir. The first item doubles Thor's strength and endurance^[31] whereas the second is used to control his weather abilities; flight; energy projection and absorption (sufficient to drain the galaxy-destroying Null Bomb, and use its energy to reignite a dying star);^[32] dimensional travel; matter manipulation,^[33][34][35] the Thermo-blast,^[36] the Anti-Force (which counteracts another force),^[37] and the God Blast, that taps into Thor's life force and has even forced Galactus to flee.^[38][39] Using Mjolnir by throwing it in the desired direction and then holding on to the handle's leather loop, Thor can fly at supersonic speeds within Earth's atmosphere and much faster than light in outer space. He can also use the hammer to create a barrier by letting it spin in a circle, and even managed to contain an explosion powerful enough to destroy 1/5th of the Universe, although at the cost of his own life.^[40] He can throw an object out of Earth's atmosphere by using his strength,^[41] and throw his hammer to Asgard from which it will return.^[18]

When Thor has to transport companions and/or objects to a destination by himself, he has a chariot drawn by two huge mystical goats called Toothgnasher and Toothgrinder that can fly nearly anywhere he desires almost as easily as with Mjolnir.^[42]

Mjolnir also has the following powers:

• It can create huge vortices.^[43]
• It can emit antimatter particles.^[44]
• It can project mystical blasts of energy, control electromagnetism, and perform molecular manipulation.^[45]

It can also absorb energy;

• It drained the Asgardian powers of the Wrecking Crew into the Wrecker.^[46]
• It drained the energies of the villain the Presence.^[47]
• It negated the force field of the Juggernaut.^[48]

The hammer also accidentally endowed the hero Union Jack with the ability to generate electricity,^[49] and it can remove any harmful radiation or toxins from a host.^[50]

There are also several rarely used abilities of Mjolnir:

• Tracking a person.^[51]
• Locating mystical items.^[52]
• Detecting illusions.^[53]
• Projecting images, as Thor has shown a glimpse of Asgard to his fellow Avenger Iron Man.^[54]

As a former religious relic, Mjolnir is also lethal to the undead, causing creatures such as vampires to burst into flame and crumble to dust.^[55]

When in possession of the "Odinforce" that usually empowers his father, Thor has proven capable of killing Galactus when the latter is very well fed and far beyond his normal power level, along with the multiverse-devouring Black Winter entity.^[56] He also greatly helped to hold back the corpse of The First Firmament, an entire multiverse of energy, which was threatening to destroy the entire current Marvel multiverse.^[57]"

I also added this information here, as I was uncertain which place that was best suited for this purpose. My apologies if this causes any problems. Antvasima (talk) 13:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Assuming that you wrote this text yourself and/or verified these sources, there's no issue with adding this information to the article. I would only ask you to make sure to reformat it so it follows our wiki's linking and references formatting, and make sure to integrate it organically into the sections and information already present in the page.
--ADour (talk) 04:28, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your reply. I gradually wrote most of Thor's old Wikipedia powers and abilities section text, yes, although not all of it, but it has been completely replaced with a (in my view much less informative and accurate) version that only uses secondary sources, so I wanted to save and display it somewhere more appropriate, meaning here.

My free time is very limited though, due to continuous overwork, so community help with integrating the above text into the article would be extremely appreciated. 🙏 Antvasima (talk) 09:12, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

I wish I could help, but I'm on the same boat. Since there's no deadline to it, you can always dig at it a little at a time whenever you can.
--ADour (talk) 22:27, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I did not intend to ask for help from you personally. It was just an open invitation to other experienced members of this community.

If nobody is interested in doing so, I suppose that I will have to try to gradually handle it myself in case I find the time. 🙏 Antvasima (talk) 10:43, 21 May 2024 (UTC)