[ai-control] Re: Apple AI opt-out

Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Thu, 13 June 2024 02:13 UTC

Return-Path: <mt@lowentropy.net>
X-Original-To: ai-control@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ai-control@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548C8C17C8B0 for <ai-control@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 19:13:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -7.108
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.108 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lowentropy.net header.b="a0SDkjIR"; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b="gbqX671E"
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gfzOCgxD0LLU for <ai-control@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 19:13:39 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from fhigh6-smtp.messagingengine.com (fhigh6-smtp.messagingengine.com [103.168.172.157]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA882C14F71D for <ai-control@ietf.org>; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 19:13:39 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailfhigh.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EAB114022B for <ai-control@ietf.org>; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 22:13:38 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from imap41 ([10.202.2.91]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 12 Jun 2024 22:13:38 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lowentropy.net; h=cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm2; t=1718244818; x=1718331218; bh=5FprSnl8RF eUCGtW71PsQsigOqcIrpyTrugfBKIPXqA=; b=a0SDkjIRoiKkVCWuNtr//DDeJ+ qBAmxd67/HRPoOeeEkyXjFuc9eUs3MXB6TfkznwAzKTaZCSnnlVwqR5kYIl9RXaD Ieo1ZerAYlV8UYaZsgyzFtIA/e3EECq4j0e4mFm8iCVCiO6BLlYrpLxphKi+HNfE TNMnaBqQ1007Nrv1/8b71oZbrzqnl5Npbfgi2XnLOKcV8cuk9lFUoA+52rxKQf9h bAn1iPklIfYzKH+A6F/uvTO4O7BumVUtRDM3HT3gDgTLU2oOqzJNaq31x7a+0Lig DGA3o8/qtgr224AwOchOqgPqgKn0Bwr2qkZRW0xk0l/BOERfGeuvgsRI0nqQ==
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm1; t=1718244818; x=1718331218; bh=5FprSnl8RFeUCGtW71PsQsigOqcI rpyTrugfBKIPXqA=; b=gbqX671E20Z2e2mYsUFYYM69aKAryNcpdEvixMhgUM7S hvjqxi/IUjjfx6X+Clw24Lq7axyB+jDqrE2mOwkOS+eqYbqHgs4PBefO/L0Ujbzr wSWQJ0fk+uRsqRS87Zgdez4GU/0SYo4U7n1EfxbGnGrbcozl1HCQqbmhqlu9Ivru blOVtfRNY35OpXYR8pTrErKXKjpi434/ZQu2a5ozdDAVsRr97NP7PFeFKPC4+4Fc tJBhsoxMFWJUTKbU8y3BfENNxv5BsGRBHBnyWQ2I3BmKVTEWgMcr/mB8ge+WJE0d YHybYyGuESxj2WofCMfINZVOr6V4Gd/X5xen63f2Gw==
X-ME-Sender: <xms:0lVqZvZIyiKiigbZ_Rta4EiOz_apyNUvWIzRtgMW288YMpFYgnuvHQ> <xme:0lVqZuYwbGxVY-NeJoZyxRqGNxp_HJus_RSFo6rcb4pT-lGJY3c7YuR5A7evxsNWR pHlRe_yyPvm2XEC9tI>
X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvledrfeduiedgfeehucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefofgggkfgjfhffhffvufgtsehttd ertderredtnecuhfhrohhmpedfofgrrhhtihhnucfvhhhomhhsohhnfdcuoehmtheslhho figvnhhtrhhophihrdhnvghtqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeefuddvvdefgfeuieffte ekhfevveektedtueeikeeigedvgeehudfgvdfgteeigfenucffohhmrghinheprghpphhl vgdrtghomhenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhroh hmpehmtheslhhofigvnhhtrhhophihrdhnvght
X-ME-Proxy: <xmx:0lVqZh_OZ92yWZLLlQ8Kn39lon91reYHiPh7A3UUNrqoc2YxVS_U1Q> <xmx:0lVqZloJ2rNdffG0HFQw5h3Sz2BqZNuHsVatMVBo9xBD9SIqFpO2Cw> <xmx:0lVqZqqbeF8YVHzNRnOTUWjYE0cTqj7_czXHe7DWtoTkV4sjuyULjg> <xmx:0lVqZrSf029oAumbXqLYEudG44iCEGvrEe8Czqf6ZKqb7B46QrBTyw> <xmx:0lVqZhTwLjfpjCRf9_X9TVa8Ky6GfA6lRxGUTWyeQC2DoO2CPcCmmy0U>
Feedback-ID: ic129442d:Fastmail
Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 5D3BA2340080; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 22:13:38 -0400 (EDT)
X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface
User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.11.0-alpha0-515-g87b2bad5a-fm-20240604.001-g87b2bad5
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-Id: <aba8834e-54cb-4aa7-959b-926d967a69ab@betaapp.fastmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <B2D3D2D6-5FB9-4533-A6C0-C03F6650AE70@mnot.net>
References: <B2D3D2D6-5FB9-4533-A6C0-C03F6650AE70@mnot.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 12:13:17 +1000
From: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
To: "ai-control@ietf.org" <ai-control@ietf.org>
Content-Type: text/plain
Message-ID-Hash: LOADX4OS2QXIKQ2ZX6GXRXZLRKUC5GEJ
X-Message-ID-Hash: LOADX4OS2QXIKQ2ZX6GXRXZLRKUC5GEJ
X-MailFrom: mt@lowentropy.net
X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header
X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc4
Precedence: list
Subject: [ai-control] Re: Apple AI opt-out
List-Id: AI Control <ai-control.ietf.org>
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ai-control/0GbXKnCBtKhJHpmwrZW5TaV8rd4>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ai-control>
List-Help: <mailto:ai-control-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Owner: <mailto:ai-control-owner@ietf.org>
List-Post: <mailto:ai-control@ietf.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:ai-control-join@ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ai-control-leave@ietf.org>

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024, at 11:52, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> ... also using robots.txt:
>   https://support.apple.com/en-us/119829

In summary: we're still in the state where there is no blanket "don't use this content for model training" directive.