Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Persistent proposals/Straw poll for view-deleted: Difference between revisions

::Note: JohnnyMrNinja has requested that someone from OTRS explain the argument of why this move would open the Foundation up to legal trouble. (Ticket#2008092710018301) On behalf of the OTRS legal queue, this is the reasoning. In response to many tickets we get, where a very upset or irate person has been subject to defamation, the appropriate solution is to remove the offending section and delete the revisions containing it from the history. Often times these requests come from the subject's attorney, typically in the form of "My client is horribly upset and at his wit's end, and wants this all to stop. He doesn't want anyone to be able to view a history that the page about him at one point said 'He also has penises growing out of his eyeballs and loves gay sex, oh and he cheated on his wife'. Make it go away, or we'll sue you to make it go away." The reason that we don't get sued by a lot more people than we do now, is because we can simply delete these revisions immediately. By modifying the present procedures to allow, even in a limited form (or with varying user rights levels) people to view these revisions, we now put the OTRS team's ability to respond to these complaints in jeopardy, because now we can no longer say "We hid this stuff from the public eye, and only trusted administrators will be able to see it". And that's just the limited version. If we open deleted revisions up to everyone, now anybody can see it, and thus there's no way to effectively solve these tickets that we get daily. On top of that, we'd then have to massively increase the amount of oversighter's we have, as well as expand the scope of the oversight policy beyond it's original form. This further hinders the legal queue especially, in that we would then require oversight access in order to ensure that we're effectively complying with subpoenas, because the number of oversighted edits would rise. Finally, there's the legal argument that can be made that by allowing the community to do this (or by having the developers implement this) the foundation is not doing all that they reasonably can do to protect those harmed by negative edits. There are just too many reasons why from a legal standpoint this is a dangerous move to make. For the OTRS legal queue, [[User:Swatjester|<font color="red">&rArr;</font>]][[User_talk:Swatjester|<font face="Euclid Fraktur"><font color="black">SWAT</font><font color="goldenrod">Jester</font></font>]] [[WP:DC|<small>^{Son of the Defender}</small>]] 14:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

:::I can confirm the existence of said ticket and support this response to it. [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 14:46, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

 

This poll will be open until '''23:59 UTC, 17 October 2008''' (three weeks).